..Ivan CALDERON Vs. Giovani SEGURA: Play-By-Play...

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**** u i respect fighters that try to ovecome adversity, yea calderon has an inpresive record but who has he beaten????????????????, the first time he faces adversity he folds his cards,,, look at maidana he got kdown with a huge body punch and he still got up and gave us a war!!!!

Therein lies the rub, Calderon isn't really built for the kind of war Segura was bringing; if he can't box, if his legs are taken and he's reduced to trying to just fight, he's done for, he has zero chance. What happens when he gets up is just a massacre.


Maidana's a tank. Calderón's just a tiny guy without a big punch (even in these small guy divisions, he's small), transcending with pure skill.

[THe TRiNiTY]

You have Calderón winning R2, too, even as your description of it suggests a Segura round.

I mentioned Segura more, because he was trying more. He didn't really do too much more, besides the heavy body shots.


I give the boxer a round that I feel judges would favor him in. Body work shows up in the next round, not the round it takes place in (typically.) Either way, Calderon laid in some decent work and it was a close round.

Really doesn't matter now. I expected Segura to win by stoppage.

[ManOfVictory]

I mentioned Segura more, because he was trying more. He didn't really do too much more, besides the heavy body shots.


I give the boxer a round that I feel judges would favor him in. Body work shows up in the next round, not the round it takes place in (typically.) Either way, Calderon laid in some decent work and it was a close round.

Really doesn't matter now. I expected Segura to win by stoppage.

physically you are correct.....point wise, they count just like head shots.

[MARKBNLV]

never thought ivan would end up like this. oh well

He had a good run,history will be kind to him