Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[ChiRock773]

Boxing's been dying for the last 100 yrs....it aint going no where...corruption is part of sports(and life in general)....baseball, footbal, basketball have all had their share of corruption.....boxing is thriving in mexico, puerto rico, cuba, latin america, europe.....it's not going anywhere...

[Ring Leader]

Boxing is dying due to the decisions. but this is bob arum right now probably saying...


you mad?





as long as arum is filling his pockets with money he dont give a crap

[Weebler I]

A beating like that ,, GTFOH his biggest lump is his ankle lol , B graders !

Huh? He looked like someone who was in a competitive fight not someone who was in a one sided beat down. He should be up to speed in 4 weeks.

We clearly didn't watch the same fight, he looked out on his feet for about three rounds and his corner was asking him if he wanted to continue. That fight will have taken something out of him, as will the rematch.

Pacquiao has basically retired...

De La Hoya
Hatton
Margarito
Mosley
and damaged Cotto badly.

Bradley isn't about to become some star because after 2 fights with Pacquiao he won't have much left.

[2120]

There are bad decisions, robberies and there's what we witnessed on Saturday night. We as fans should not accept this, this is the straw that broke boxing's back.

Why did this happen? I don't know, what could Arum gain from this? All I do know is that it was one of the worst if not the worst decisions I have ever seen and we as fans should not accept this. I'm not a fan of Manny Pacquaio or against Bradley, I just love the sport of boxing.

I know there are trolls here enjoying what happened but in a serious thread about a serious issue, I'm disgusted. To those of you who compare this to medicine given to Pac because of what happened to him vs JMM, it isn't even close. Those were tough, competitive fights, this was a one sided beat down that was boring to watch because Bradley had nothing left for Pac. You could see Bradley's body language and then you couple that with the fact he told Arum he lost, the compubox stats and that almost all of the press had Pac winning, this made a mockery of the sport.

I do know that if there is a silver lining in all of this it's that hopefully the govt will step in and take control of this rogue sport. Different commissions in different states, judges that are old and part of the establishment that is the problem and then the promoters who run boxing and fighters into the ground for their own personal monetary gain. We need a boxing Czar, someone who runs all aspects of the sport, unifies the rules and can overturn horrible decisions like this.

We need changes or boxing is done as we know it and this is not an exaggeration. My friends from the MMA gym I help train fighters at texted me and told me "This is why MMA is bigger than boxing now". I had nothing back to say.... To think a fighter dedicates 6-8 weeks of blood sweat and tears, takes punishment in the fights and then is handed down a cowardly decision like this, it's a crime to be quite honest with you. Respect to Bradley, he wasn't the judge but he knew he lost, Arum knew, the press knew, the fans knew and still we were handed something like this.

I will never again pay one red cent towards anything promoted by Top Rank and that's my word. Boxing's integrity died on Saturday night.



Here lies boxing 1838 - 2012

no. Marquez was the clear winner. its the same

[Primera]

Judges said Bradley won, so he won. Just like Marquez remember?

[maguirre]

I don't think he is a bad guy. He was hyping up the fight and it's clear to me that he was instructed to step it up a bit. But I don't think he'll ever be a PPV star with that style of his and even with all the belts.

[KnockUTheFukOut]

he is in a never ending SLAVE DEAL, I don't even think he knows how many fights are left on his contract

[1dcsailor]

This guy thought Manny won lol



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[2120]

First off thanks for supplying scores for the blog http://fightscorecollector.blogspot.com thanks to Jake Donovan on BS for letting me do this on here

Biggest amount of scores so far ive been able to collect for the fightscorecollector blog , here's the results for the Pacquiao vs Bradley fight.

265 scores from Press and Fans

248 had Manny winning the fight....117-111 and 116-112 most common

10 had Bradley winning fight.....115-113 most common

7 had a draw.....114-114 most common


Regarding the press and boxing sites....47-1 in favor of Manny P , only Britains Uk Danny Flexen of Boxing news had Bradley winning although i read that Brian Kenny and Thomas Hauser also had Bradley winning.

The press scores are from all teh major names in the USA AND UK.

Cheers again - fightscorecollector

Sounds about the same as the Marquez fight.

Exactly!

[Primera]

Jake Donavan boxingscene.com 115-113 pacquiao
Cliff Rold boxingscene.com 115-113 pacquiao
Graham Houston Fight News.com -Pacquiao
Stephen Edaward boxing talk.com- 116-112 Pacquiao
Scott Shaffer boxing talk.com- 115-113 Pacquiao
Greg Leon Boxing Talk.com - 115-114 Pacquiao
Doveed Linder Boxing talk.com-114-114 Draw
Mike Slone, SecondsOut.com: 116-113 Marquez
Robert Guerrero: Marquez
Steve Cunningham: Marquez
Marvin Hagler: Marquez
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 115-113 Marquez
Graham Shaw, sportinglife.com: 116-113 Marquez
Recah Trinidad, Inquirer.net: Marquez
Max Kellerman, HBO: 114-114 Draw
Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 114-114 Draw
Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 114-114 Draw
Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 114-114 Draw
Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN/Reuters: 114-114 Draw
Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-114 Draw
Brian Campbell, ESPN Mobile: 114-114 Draw
george Elsasser, BraggingRightsCorner.com: 114-114 Draw
Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 114-114 Draw
Jeff Powell, Daily Mail (UK): 114-114 Draw
Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 114-114 Draw
Larry Merchant, HBO: Draw
Elie Seckbach, ESNews.com/AOL News: 114-114 Draw
Teddy June, RingJunkies.com: 114-114 Draw
Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com: 114-114 Draw
Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 114-114 Draw
Frank Baltazar, Fight Manager/Inductee, California Boxing Hall of Fame: 115-115 Draw
john Whisler, San Antonio Express: Draw or Pacquiao
Hamlet Kim, Christian Post: Draw or Pacquiao
Adam Pollack, The Cyber Boxing Zone: Draw or Pacquiao
Chris Broussard, ESPN: Draw or Marquez
Justin Tate, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
Bam on Boxing, ************.com: 114-114 Draw
Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 114-114 Draw
Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 114-114 Draw
Gary Andrew Pool, The Atlantic: 114-114 Draw
Leighton Ginn, Desert Sun: Draw
Doveed Linder, **********.com: 114-114 Draw
Bob Papa, HBO: Draw
Andrew Eisele, Boxing.about.com: 115-115 Draw
Charles Horgan, Boxing Tribune: 114-114 Draw
Kevin Cunningham, Boxing Trainer: Draw
Harold Lederman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
Joseph Herron, FightSaga: 116-112 Pacquiao
Scoop Malinowski, *************: Pacquiao
Cliff Rold, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jim Lampley, HBO: Pacquiao
Randy Gordon, former Chairman, New York State Athletic Commission; former editor, Ring Magazine: Pacquiao
Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 116-113 Pacquiao
Sean Sullivan, BoxingDigest: 115-114 Pacquiao
Michael Rosenthal, Editor, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jake Donovan, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Jose Castillo, Fight Manager: Pacquiao
James Foley, BleacherReport.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Anthony Lee, ************.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Graham Houston, FightWriter.com: Pacquiao
Danny Serratelli, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Tony Paige, WFAN/CBS New York: Pacquiao
Eurosport Yahoo!: 116-115 Pacquiao
Scott Shaffer, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Nate Ravitz, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
Patrick L. Stumberg, MMAMania.com/SBNation: 115-113 Pacquiao
Colin Seymour, FrontPageBoxing.com/Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jason Peck, ********Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Busfield, The Guardian: 116-114 Pacquiao
Nick Fox, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Pacquiao
Stephen Edwards, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Dan Hill, Wall Street Journal: Pacquiao
Max Parker, Boxing Watchers: 115-114 Pacquiao
Adam Hirshfield, Bleacher Report.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
King J Gladney, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Michael David Smith, AOL NEWS/MMA Fighting.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Madra Uladh, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Michael Woods, TheSweetScience.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Brad Cooney, 8CountNews.com/Examiner.com: Pacquiao by one round
"Old Yank" Schneider, Boxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Sam Gerasi, DogHouseBoxing.com: Pacquiao
Greg Leon, **********.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Darrell La Montre, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Don Donatello, NowBoxing.com: Pacquiao
Terra (Brazil): 116-112 Pacquiao
Joel Huerto, SportsFanLive: Pacquiao
Robert Smith, General Secretary, British Boxing Board of Control: Pacquiao

Way to post the ones that only fit your agenda LMAO.

Look, I'll do the same thing.

I wonder why you forgot all of these? Did it not fit your agenda, Pacfart?

Blake Dreisbach, BleacherReport.com: 116-112 Marquez
Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 116-112 Marquez
Ron Borges, The Sweet Science/Boston Herald/Ring Magazine: 117-112 Marquez
Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Marquez
Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Marquez
Mark Lyons, 8CountNews.com: 116-112 Marquez
Michael Marley, The Examiner: 115-113 Marquez
Mike Coppinger, ******.com: 115-113 Marquez
Al Bernstein: 115-113 Marquez
Wayne McCullough: 115-113 Marquez
Ryan Maquinana, BoxingScene.com: 116-113 Marquez
Matt Hamilton, EsNews.com: 116-115 Marquez
Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 115-113 Marquez
Bob Sheridan: 115-114 Marquez
John Katsilometes, Las Vegas Sun: 115-114 Marquez
Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com: 117-113 Marquez
Bill Dwyer, Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Marquez
Pedro Fernandez, RingTalk.com: 116-113 Marquez
Chris Williams, ************.com: 117-111 Marquez
Eric Raskin, TheSweetScience.com: 116-112 Marquez
Lyle Fitzsimmons, The Sports Network: 116-112 Marquez
Steve Bunce, BBC: 117-111 Marquez
Matt Lynch, BoxingToday: 116-112 Marquez
Chuck Giampa, Retired Boxing Judge: 116-112 Marquez
Glyn Leach, Boxing Monthly: 115-113 Marquez
Briggs Seekins, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Marquez
Oly Goldstein, BadLeftHook.com: 116-112 Marquez
Johnny Benz, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-111 Marquez
Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Marquez
George Willis, New York Post: 115-113 Marquez
Rich Thomas, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 116-112 Marquez
Raj Parmar, 3MoreRounds.com: 115-113 Marquez
Norm Frauenheim, 15Rounds.com: 115-113 Marquez
Martin Rogers, Yahoo! Sports: 115-113 Marquez
James Slater, ********Boxing.com: 116-112 Marquez
Nick Tylwalk, BoxingWatchers.com: 115-113 Marquez
Bob Velin, USAToday: 115-113 Marquez
Chris Manix, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Marquez
Igor Guryashkin, ESPN: Marquez by one round
Brent Brookhouse, SB Nation: 115-113 Marquez
Will Cooling, FOX Sports/InsideFights: 118-110 Marquez
Andrew Fruman, The Boxing Bulletin: 116-112 Marquez
Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 115-113 Marquez
Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine/TheSweetScience.com/TheFist: 117-111 Marquez
Dan Ambrose, ************.com: 116-112 Marquez
Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian: 117-114 Marquez
Paul Magno, The Boxing Tribune: 115-113 Marquez
Jerry Izenberg, Newark Star-Ledger: 115-114 Marquez
Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Marquez
Scott Christ, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Marquez
Fox Doucette, The Boxing Tribune: 115-113 Marquez
Henry Ramirez, Boxing Trainer: 116-113 Marquez
Thomas Hauser, SecondsOut.com: 116-113 Marquez
Gerardo Granados, ************.com: 116-112 Marquez
Robert Guerrero: 116-112 Marquez
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 115-113 Marquez
Graham Shaw, SportingLife.com: 116-113 Marquez