Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[Brother Jay]

Because they hate being wrong, and refuse to acknowledge that Manny isn't the best fighter today, because as long as Floyd is still active, Manny will always be second best, at best.

Those aren't real boxing fans, real fans will stick with the sport they love for the love of the sport, not leave it because of politics, corruption, or any other superficial excuse.


Exactly.

Manny was never the best fighter.

Manny was never the second best fighter either.

My problem as a boxing fan has always been when one chosen pet project like Pacquiao is placed in a match against a 5th ranked fighter coming off of a loss using a catchweight, but is given ridiculously overblown credit putting him up at the top among today's current best.

There are boxers who work hard everyday and fight the #1, 2 & 3 ranked fighters. Some win. Some lose. However none of them are given the credit that they deserve for fighting their division's best, while Pacquiao was called P4P#1 for fighting 5th ranked boxers!

IMO, that is worse than what happened in the Bradley fight.

How do you rate Pacquiao higher than men who are fighting the top 3 in their divisions .. when Pacquiao has never fought better than a #4 WW(Cotto) and used catchweight matches which titles are not supposed to switch hands in?.

This has been going on since 2008.

Its only now that Pacquiao has looked significantly worse than his top form that people are now admitting this. That in itself is hypocrisy. These facts were ALWAYS there, but now half of boxing's fans are just now pretending that some veil has been lifted.

Its amazing to see people now writing that Pacquiao's legacy is crap above 135lbs, when I and others have been saying that for years. The last milestone was when Filipino fans were apologizing to Marquez fans in the lobby of the Pac/JMM III fight. And before that it was how clear it was that Pacquiao couldn't cut off the ring to box Mosley.

I guess withdrawing from a cult is a process. Obviously a painful one at that.

[Earl-Hickey]

the Ring changes ther rules for Pac, ignores bradley loss

All pacs rankings remain the same, first time they have ever done this before despite their being many worse robberies they have ignored

Thoughts???

[One Of A Kind]

Right decision.

[Hougigo]

Saw it coming. They'll face backlash if they did. I don't think them or ESPN budge

[CHOWWOKKA]

Wahhhhhh I am making a petition right now to make Ring change their rules!!


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[Redd Foxx]

Good to see common sense prevail. Props to Ring.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Super middleweight boxing champion Andre Ward says that if he was Tim Bradley, he would give back the WBO welterweight title belt to Manny Pacquiao.

Bradley won a very controversial decision against Pacquiao on Saturday, and almost all of the reporters and fans in Las Vegas thought Pacquiao dominated the fight.

"It was a ridiculous decision," said Ward, who was at the fight. "Bradley lost the majority of the rounds. If it was me personally, I would admit defeat and say, 'Here's your belt back.'"

Bradley said after the fight that he would watch it again to see if he really won. But his comments got stronger later, saying he thought he "carried the fight with my jab" and that he was the "No. 2 pound-for-pound" best fighter behind Floyd Mayweather.

If Bradley did watch the fight over again, he would clearly see that he lost the fight, Ward said. Bradley didn't get one good punch in, Pacquiao said, and Ward agreed that Bradley's lack of power was evident.

"There was nothing there, nothing to suggest it was even close," Ward said. "If you were being generous, extremely generous, maybe you could give Tim four rounds and he loses 8-4. I love Tim, he is a friend of mine, but he has to know that he lost that fight."

And Bradley should say that and give the belt back to Pacquiao.

"It's the right thing to do," Ward said. "It's a tough situation, but you gotta make a stand and that will help make sure that this kind of thing doesn't happen again. He won't lose any stock - in fact, his reputation would be enhanced.

"It would help us put the reigns on this Wild Wild West situation that boxing has become."

Ironically, if Bradley had lost the fight he might be looked at more favorably by boxing fans.

"He has nothing to hang his head about," Ward said. "He hurt his foot early and he never gave up, took some good shots and hung in there."

Ward was at the Pacquiao-Bradley match to promote his Sept. 8 fight in his hometown of Oakland against light heavyweight champ Chad Dawson. Ward was stunned just like everyone else at the MGM Grand when the split-decision result was announced.

"My first reaction was shock, then anger and then sadness," Ward said. "I have dedicated half of my life to this sport and what happened Saturday is unacceptable. And it's going to continue to happen until there is a commission that starts to impose sanctions. There have to be investigations and punishments."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...SPCK1P0LFH.DTL

Watching your sig reminds me how much of a bum Bradley is...

[Phenom]

ever since Goldenboy bought the ring they been trying to over compensate to not look biased from Cotto being #1 Jr WW after beating Foreman and Mayorga to Pacquiao being #1 WW with out fighting any top WW since Cotto in 09 and Donaire being so overrated in P4P list and so on

Ring is no more credible then any of the ABC organization hell they scored the last two fights to Marquez and still kept Pacquiao rating the same

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Campillo/Cloud was a worse robbery IMO. Abril/Rios takes the cake though.

The Abril-Rios fight was more 1 sided than Pacquiao-Bradley but what makes Pacquiao-Bradley a bigger robbery is that it was a MAJOR PPV and the #1/2 P4P fighter who has done so much for this sport, his country and Arum himself was blatantly robbed.

[Hougigo]

Wahhhhhh I am making a petition right now to make Ring change their rules!!


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I'm making a petition to petition any petition against your petition.