Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[Bushbaby]

I agree, maybe slightly different reasons. Consider this, if Bradley does beat Pacman, (which I think he does), Why won't bob let him fight Floyd. 2 undefeated fighters, Bradley will have the w against Pacman, he doesn't care what bob pays him, Floyd is aging, Bradley is just finding his flow. I mean Bradley will be competitive & if he loses, he still beat Pacman anyway.

[cixthree]

I agree, maybe slightly different reasons. Consider this, if Bradley does beat Pacman, (which I think he does), Why won't bob let him fight Floyd. 2 undefeated fighters, Bradley will have the w against Pacman, he doesn't care what bob pays him, Floyd is aging, Bradley is just finding his flow. I mean Bradley will be competitive & if he loses, he still beat Pacman anyway.

Only problem I see is Bob not wanting to deal with what Floyd mite say in the build up, maybe it won't matter tho (money talks louder than Floyd).
But I can see it going down...

[Paclan]

i dont understand how anyone can obsess so much over someone they don't like

are you sure you're not secretly in love with pac ts?

[Jayallday9]

Yup, you heard it here first guys. The things that lead me to this are as follows.
1. Bob was never gonna let Manny fight Floyd, not because he can't beat Floyd (He very well could have in 2009, but Floyd put a wrench in that by exposing the possability of drug use)
There went Bobs shot at robbing a still naive Manny, possibly beating the snot outta that lil loud mouth prick and still keep Manny winning inhouse.

2. Manny is starting to understand how much he's really worth, Bob don't like that. He enjoys it when a fighter appreciates peanuts, but when they start asking for water with those nuts it's a problem. (VISION QUEST. )

3. Manny is/has become unmarketable to an extent, yea people love a humble God fearing guy but Mannys going overboard (seriously).
Bobs even acknowledged this, he seems concerned.

4. IF, for those that did not see me say IF!
If Manny was on something, he's not any more. Manny wants what he can't have (Floyd). And the only way he can get Floyd is to Get Off Drugs!
And even if Bob were to give Manny Floyd, Manny would want to be paid fair and that leaves Bobs pockets lite (So what's the point).

Enter Bradley, he'd fight for half and be happy (for the time being). Bobs given Timmy the green lite folks.
Even if he's selling Timmy a wolf ticket, it assures Bob that Manny (if he choses to leave TR), that he leaves beaten (Stock dropped). Same thing he pulled on Cotto when he sent Cheto in loaded, it pretty much forced Cotto to extend. And its the same thing he attempted with Oscar and Floyd, but they were smart enought to just leave.

Yup, Bobs setting Manny Up. Atleast that's how I see it, and for the first time in a long time I'm pulling for the upset. The big *** U Bob (ala Manny/JMM 3) A crappy fight and the real winner loses.
If Manny wants Floyd he better beat Timmy, and Bob ain't helping this time.

100%. Been saying the same thing! Last thing Arum wants is a Floyd/Pac 24/7 with Floyd telling Pac he's been getting ripped off. Tim is the kinda skilled fighter Arum's been avoiding and he knows Pac is on his way out anyway so I honestly believe it's cash out time.

[boliodogs]

cixthree, you say you are pulling for the upset for the first time in a long time. By upset I assume you mean Bradley winning since he is the 3 to 1 underdog. Correct me if I'm wrong but you are a big Mayweather fan and you don't like Pacquiao so when Pacquiao fights you always pull for the upset, a Pacquiao loss. You say Arum knew Margarito had loaded gloves for Cotto because he planned it that way and he fixed the judges in Marquez 3 so that Marquez could not win a decision. Is there any possibility that Arum did not pay off judges for Marquez Pacquiao 3 or have anything to do with Margarito's gloves being loaded? Could he just be a promoter who makes good money from the fights he promotes and does not try to influence the outcome of those fights? If Pacquiao wins a onesided fight does that blow your conspiracy theory? Do you know for sure Margarito's gloves were loaded for the first Cotto fight?

[cixthree]

i dont understand how anyone can obsess so much over someone they don't like

are you sure you're not secretly in love with pac ts?

Never said I didn't like Manny, I'm not a fan of the BS around him. No he's noy better than Floyd, saying no to drug testing is a no no, Arum is a bastard lie! And the media spin job made me sick. All that combined with these 3/4 ****** fans pushed my buttons.
I've always been a fan of Manny, but when you put hype on roids (no pun) it Fs with qhats real in the world.
And yes I believe he's probably used sum sort of enhancer.

[Paclan]

cixthree, you say you are pulling for the upset for the first time in a long time. By upset I assume you mean Bradley winning since he is the 3 to 1 underdog. Correct me if I'm wrong but you are a big Mayweather fan and you don't like Pacquiao so when Pacquiao fights you always pull for the upset, a Pacquiao loss. You say Arum knew Margarito had loaded gloves for Cotto because he planned it that way and he fixed the judges in Marquez 3 so that Marquez could not win a decision. Is there any possibility that Arum did not pay off judges for Marquez Pacquiao 3 or have anything to do with Margarito's gloves being loaded? Could he just be a promoter who makes good money from the fights he promotes and does not try to influence the outcome of those fights? If Pacquiao wins a onesided fight does that blow your conspiracy theory? Do you know for sure Margarito's gloves were loaded for the first Cotto fight?

Arum's been fixing fights for decades now bud.

[cixthree]

cixthree, you say you are pulling for the upset for the first time in a long time. By upset I assume you mean Bradley winning since he is the 3 to 1 underdog. Correct me if I'm wrong but you are a big Mayweather fan and you don't like Pacquiao so when Pacquiao fights you always pull for the upset, a Pacquiao loss. You say Arum knew Margarito had loaded gloves for Cotto because he planned it that way and he fixed the judges in Marquez 3 so that Marquez could not win a decision. Is there any possibility that Arum did not pay off judges for Marquez Pacquiao 3 or have anything to do with Margarito's gloves being loaded? Could he just be a promoter who makes good money from the fights he promotes and does not try to influence the outcome of those fights? If Pacquiao wins a onesided fight does that blow your conspiracy theory? Do you know for sure Margarito's gloves were loaded for the first Cotto fight?

By upset I mean Bobs plan backfires in some way shape or form...

[mathed]

I too think Arum knows Pac is ready to bounce so he is going to do what is best for Arum. That is limit his exposure to controversy and make sure he has a star to take over for Pac when he retires. We all know Chavez jr isn't going to win too many more fights, the days of easy paydays are coming to a close for him.

Bradley is capable of beating everybody at 147 and 140 and a win over Pac will make him famous around the world.

[IMDAZED]

Bradley has to beat Pacquiao first.