Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[The Big Dunn]

Will you pay for it?

And to the above, thats because you dont know boxing at all. You dont see the little details.

. Of course I'm gonna watch it. I see the little things but I haven't seen them in bradley to a degree that changes how I see the fight. Maybe not bojaangles but brick wall and others are definitely over stating the danger thrat level. Oddsmakers see the same things I do, that's why manny is such abig favorite. Hopefully its a good fight. But I expect a manny ko based on how I rate manny currently

[Oxn]

What decline? This is where I take issue. Fighting a better fighter like jmm is not decline. Imo manny is still the same fighter with the same strengths and flaws. Some fighters can expose those flaws others can't. Tim hasn't shown me he can counter effectively enough to bother manny. Tim is not an elite fighter yet. Obviously if he wins he has to be considered elite.

Further proving my point of you not knowing Boxing, LIKE AT ALL.

You dont see Bradley counter punching is because

A. You miss the little details

B. He doesnt need to when he can just walk down all his previous opponents.

So a guy with just under JMMs counter punching abilities, and more power, and more agression, better chin, better defense, and can fight on the inside = Manny may just really lose.

[bojangles1987]

What decline? This is where I take issue. Fighting a better fighter like jmm is not decline. Imo manny is still the same fighter with the same strengths and flaws. Some fighters can expose those flaws others can't. Tim hasn't shown me he can counter effectively enough to bother manny. Tim is not an elite fighter yet. Obviously if he wins he has to be considered elite.

It's not just Marquez, not for me. Ever since Cotto, he has looked worse with every fight. Mosley was when I was convinced he was going way down, because I've never seen Pac have trouble with someone who just ran from him like that. Pac always blasts someone who runs.

Only reason I thought he'd kill Marquez is because I put my last hopes that he would give a crap and Marquez would not look good at the weight. Neither happened, and we got what we got. I would have picked Bradley last year, before Marquez.

[Oxn]

. Of course I'm gonna watch it. I see the little things but I haven't seen them in bradley to a degree that changes how I see the fight. Maybe not bojaangles but brick wall and others are definitely over stating the danger thrat level. Oddsmakers see the same things I do, that's why manny is such abig favorite. Hopefully its a good fight. But I expect a manny ko based on how I rate manny currently

I didnt ask if you were going to watch it, i asked are you going to pay for it?

And we all know oddsmaker are a popularity contest,

Dont use that shiet as a measure of skills, the fact that you did, proves my point that you really dont know boxing.

[The Big Dunn]

See this is where you mess up brother..Alexander and Peterson are B to B- fighters,both were outclassed..JMM is a master counter puncher(I agree)but his defense sucks..Let me ask you,who do you believe to be the better defender,Bradley or JMM??

Bradley. But you won't beat manny defensively. You beat him with effective countering when he is off balance. If you can't take advantage of mannys weaknesses in thesr areas and can't move effectively, you can't beat him. Tim can't do this enough imo

[bojangles1987]

Why can't Tim be consider elite??He has dominated every fighter put in front of him..He is not just getting by,he is clearly outclassing good fighters,undefeated fighters at that...

Manny's flaws are if a fighter does not stand in front of him he is confused..So your saying you believe Bradley can not do this??You really don't believe Bradley can make Pac miss and pay??You must be one of these people who Believe Bradley is Hatton...

See that's the thing, Bradley may not be elite but at the very least he has proven that he is above the good level, because he is absolutely outclassing every good fighter he ever fights.

[The Big Dunn]

Further proving my point of you not knowing Boxing, LIKE AT ALL.

You dont see Bradley counter punching is because

A. You miss the little details

B. He doesnt need to when he can just walk down all his previous opponents.

So a guy with just under JMMs counter punching abilities, and more power, and more agression, better chin, better defense, and can fight on the inside = Manny may just really lose.

I disgaree with your assessment of tim bradley

[Rome-By-Ko]

. Of course I'm gonna watch it. I see the little things but I haven't seen them in bradley to a degree that changes how I see the fight. Maybe not bojaangles but brick wall and others are definitely over stating the danger thrat level. Oddsmakers see the same things I do, that's why manny is such abig favorite. Hopefully its a good fight. But I expect a manny ko based on how I rate manny currently

The odds makers also saw New England Patriots as favorites over the Giants,although anyone with two eyes could see the Giants were the hotter team..See how that played out,sorry Bojangles...

[Oxn]

Bradley. But you won't beat manny defensively. You beat him with effective countering when he is off balance. If you can't take advantage of mannys weaknesses in thesr areas and can't move effectively, you can't beat him. Tim can't do this enough imo

Cant wait for your excuse when Bradley either beats Manny or troubles him for 12 rounds, or just gets robbed.

I think i already know.

Manny was never that good, he just handpicked his opponents to make him look good.

[Oxn]

I disgaree with your assessment of tim bradley

i know you would, hence my assesment of you dont know boxing.