Why Didnt Pac Ever Test For Other Fights?

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  • Boxin'
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    #11
    Pac and FLoyd didnt want to fight eachother, they both had too much to lose.

    Look at Pac, he fought Clottey infront of a full arena of 50k and sold that ***** to 600k homes. If he lost to Floyd he would never get those numbers. they guy is a media hypejob

    dont get me wrong he is great, but he is mad hyped up by the media and HBO. They want to make it seem like he is a phenomenon, when in reality he's just a really good fighter who would probably lose to FLoyd

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    • DLT
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      #12
      Pac definetly didnt have to do it but my point is that it wouldve left Floyd with nowhere to run and Pac had no real risk of losing those fights

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        #13
        Originally posted by DLT
        My man, Cotto in no way has no argument to that. How? Floyd has always been ranked higher, he's been near the top of the P4P list since 21, he's undefeated, he's made a way bigger impact outside of boxing, Cotto has been destroyed twice, no one thinks Cotto is near the fighter that Floyd is, Floyd went to 5 divisions, he's fought more bigger guys then Cotto and everything else.

        With that being said, that is no diss to Cotto. Just because you arent on a Floyd or Pac level doesnt mean that you suck. He's had a great career that nearly anyone would be proud to have
        My point has always been Floyd is wasting his talent. He could be a top 10 all time fighter. Arguably top 15 at this point. If...

        He beat prime undefeated Cotto after he beat Mosely and then beat Margarito who was seemingly unstoppable. Then he probably would have beat Mosley or Hatton, Marquez and then he'd be top 25, then if he would have beaten Pac by now he'd done something rarely ever done in boxing history, beat a #1 & #2 P4P fighter in the same weight class, 2 of the best fighters in the last 15 years. Duking it out to see who is truely the best and the come out on top.

        But no he claims #1 at welterweight but doesn't beat the best fighters there. Then he's struggling to fight Pac which could end all this BS I'm talking about so in my book he's struggling to make top 50-75. Take it for what it's worth.

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        • maguirre
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          Truth is Pac doesn't have to do anything beyond what he's been subjected to in all his fights when it comes to testing. If you make it look like only Pac and his team are the only ones interested in this fight, then perhaps Pac would do what you suggests here. That should not be the case. That woudn't even matter anyway, if it's not mutual.

          And let's get this straight. Pac doesn't need Floyd. Maybe Floyd doesn't need him too. The public wants the fight to happen. The general knowledge is that Floyd is the one making this fight difficult to happen. And that is the truth. No one can hide the truth. See it for yourselves. If there is going to be a loser here if the fight never happens, it will be Floyd, period!

          Sure, you can repeat the same "Pac won't take the test" mantra. Even though he's been publicly saying he will.

          But who tf cares? Pacquiao certainly won't care. Pac fans will get over it.
          Last edited by maguirre; 03-30-2011, 11:23 AM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by DLT
            Pac definetly didnt have to do it but my point is that it wouldve left Floyd with nowhere to run and Pac had no real risk of losing those fights
            Yeah that would be nice....but Floyd has been owned so many times that another ownage of that type could mean suicide for Floyd.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Natedatpkid
              My point has always been Floyd is wasting his talent. He could be a top 10 all time fighter. Arguably top 15 at this point. If...

              He beat prime undefeated Cotto after he beat Mosely and then beat Margarito who was seemingly unstoppable. Then he probably would have beat Mosley or Hatton, Marquez and then he'd be top 25, then if he would have beaten Pac by now he'd done something rarely ever done in boxing history, beat a #1 & #2 P4P fighter in the same weight class, 2 of the best fighters in the last 15 years. Duking it out to see who is truely the best and the come out on top.

              But no he claims #1 at welterweight but doesn't beat the best fighters there. Then he's struggling to fight Pac which could end all this BS I'm talking about so in my book he's struggling to make top 50-75. Take it for what it's worth.
              well you can argue that and alot of others do. Even alot of Floyd fans wished that he wouldve done more but my argument has always been more different. My argument is that he hurt himself by chasing the big money Oscar fight and moved up in weight way too fast. He wasnt a bigger guy until he just came back from the last retirement. Until then he was coming into WW fights at 146 pounds in the ring and those guys were huge & strong.

              He wasnt like Pac and had that power or aggression so if he fought them at that time then he wouldve basically been running the whole fight to where even if he had run, everyone wouldve criticized him for being a running boring bum. Thats why I say that if he wouldve been the size that he came back with against JMM & Shane then he wouldve fought those same guys back then but he wasnt. He was small for 140, let alone WW.

              He moved up to LW the right way but he shouldve stayed there for atleast 4 more fights. He was only coming into the ring at 138 pounds at LW. Then at 140 he couldve stayed there for atleast 5 more fights as he was coming into the ring at 143 pounds. Then at WW he was actually coming in under the limit at 146 in the ring while Margairto was huge & in his 1st weight class and Cotto was basically in his 1st also. It was just bad timing to me because he wanted that big money Oscar fight since Arum never made him the star he should have

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                #17
                Originally posted by DLT
                This is a real question so please leave the junk at the door. Those on here who no me no that Im a Floyd fan but Im fair. I can see the argument on both sides but my 1 question is that if Pac agreed to the 14 days and the Floyd fight never happened, then why didnt he use it for his subsequent fights to see if he could get use to it and make the fight happened?

                I say this because Pac has fought some good guys in Clottey, Margarito, and now Mosley but lets be real, those guys were never ever going to beat him barring some miracle. Therefore, why not use the 14day cutoff for the Clottey fight, then 7 day cutoff for the Margarito fight, then same day or 2 day cutoff for the Mosley fight and by then Pac is definitely use to the testing and Floyd has no excuse left.

                He wasnt going to lose those fights and they said they would take the 14 days so stick by that and use it against guys you know you can beat. Not only that but it would make the media & public after the Clottey fight say that Pac is doing 14 days right now, why cant Floyd do that and they would say more after other fights.

                I just always felt that Roach and those guys shouldve done that, e****ally with him fighting known cheats like Margarito & Mosley. It wouldve been a very good look and Floyd would have nothing to say or nowhere to run. Then the lawsuit also has more legs because Pac is openly testing.

                Pac definetly didnt have to do it but my point is that it wouldve left Floyd with nowhere to run and Pac had no real risk of losing those fights. Again, leave the hate comments at the door and hear some real responses
                Look around, open your eyes? What do you see? Did you see any fighters taking Floyd FAKE OST? A big NO! You may wondering why did you? Because these fighters are not possies and b!tches. FAKE OST is only for possies and b!tches. Real fighters they want real fights. You want REAL OST? Go for ALL YEAR ROUND TESTING 365/7/24 like the Olympic athletes did! Did Floyd went into that? A big NO again! Don't go for what tailor made to yourself like Floyd FAKE 2 months OST. Where he got that such thing? "peeleft:
                Last edited by straightleft; 03-30-2011, 11:32 AM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Cgarcia
                  Truth is Pac doesn't have to do anything beyond what he's been subjected to in all his fights when it comes to testing. If you make it look like only Pac and his team are the only ones interested in this fight, then perhaps Pac would do what you suggests here. That should not be the case. That woudn't even matter anyway, if it's not mutual.

                  And let's get this straight. Pac doesn't need Floyd. Maybe Floyd doesn't need him too. The public wants the fight to happen. The general knowledge is that Floyd is the one making this fight difficult to happen. And that is the truth. No one can hide the truth. See it for yourselves. If there is going to be a loser here if the fight never happens, it will be Floyd, period!

                  Sure, you can repeat the same "Pac won't take the test" mantra. Even though he's been publicly saying he will.

                  But who tf cares? Pacquiao certainly won't care. Pac fans will get over it.
                  well thats where I differ. I truly respect both sides arguments on the testing. I could see why floyd wants it and I respect that but I can also see why Pac would say no and I respect that. Again, Pac doesnt have to do nothing but I was just saying that he couldve backed Floyd into a big corner by doing it this way

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    Yo DLT answer me this, say Pacquiao was dabbling with PEDs (He is), wouldn't it be smart to come out and say he's willing to do a 7-14 day cutoff? Especially since he knows Mayweather's gonna stand firm on his demands, all one has to do it watch the Mayweather-Mosley post fight.

                    The 7-14 day cutoff bullcrap is to look good in public, make it seem like he's willing to compromise when in reality he wants none of it.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by straightleft
                      Look around, open your eyes? What do you see? Did you see any fighters taking Floyd FAKE OST? A big NO! You may wondering why did you? Because these fighters are not ******* and b!tches. FAKE OST is only for ******* and b!tches. Real fighters they want real fights. You want REAL OST? Go for ALL YEAR ROUND TESTING 365/7/24 like the Olympic athletes did! Don't go for what tailor made to yourself like Floyd FAKE 2 months OST. Where he got that such thing? "peeleft:
                      "Fake OST" Is better than the testing we have now right? Wayyyyyyyyyyy better...Whoever says otherwise is an F'ing joke of a poster.

                      What about Saurland fighters are they not taking "fake OST" type of test? Are all of them pussies and bitches?

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