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  • Pacquiao is lame as hell for this suit. He wants 5mil because his feelings got hurt. The people that dont back Pac still wouldnt without the Roid issue. If FLoyd was suing yall would be calling him a sensitive lil punk. I have lost respect for Pac and his team now. I know that only matters to me but I made a point to stay neutral on how I viewed Pac from a Mayweather fan's point of view. Chump ****. A millionare Congressman suing a fighter for more money.

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    • most of you just dont like the mayweathers as people thats really where all these threads come from, and i can understand that... u cant actually agree with another man suing for someone talking about him.. even if u do agree, you really dont care as much as you are potraying its just the fact its the mayweathers involved that makes u so passionate.. u just want to see mayweather lose some how some way even if its $12, none of you would sue anyone if u were in pacs shoes i know this for a fact

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      • Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
        Again.. so you believe Floyds words.. and not Mannys? Why hasn't Floyd called Manny's bluff.. and negotiate a fight? Manny said there is no problem with drug testing.. yet Floyd still doesn't want the fight. He said he's going to come back and whup poochiao ass but I'm still waiting to see that.
        Uh..considering Floyd has been consistent in saying, "No test, no fight" (RIGHT after the Shane fight, and in numerous interviews and one just recently). And Manny has flip flopped on this issue more than house shoes...uh...yea, I believe Floyd more than Manny on THIS issue.

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        • I dont know how Pac can possibly lose this case, im no lawyer but kind of instinct and common sense is how most laws are made anyway.

          It seems that the mayweathers have some kind of verbal diahorea thing going on, so how can they not be guilty of something? What is their excuse? That they say things before thinking perhaps? Not good enough excuse really is it?

          I dont know how many fans PBF has got, but it seems they all think Pac is on roids if you believe what you hear and read. SO now you are going to tell me the mayweathers arent the casue for all of this? They were accusing Pac of PED use, way before Pac declined OSDT.

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          • Originally posted by VWEBBJR View Post
            Uh..considering Floyd has been consistent in saying, "No test, no fight" (RIGHT after the Shane fight, and in numerous interviews and one just recently). And Manny has flip flopped on this issue more than house shoes...uh...yea,
            Uhh c'mon Coach..

            Floyd went from.. easy fight/amateurish.. to just say my name.. to take OST (you're extraordinary).. to 14 days.. to 0 days.. is flip flopping? consistent?

            Pacquaio 30 days.. 14 days to 0 days... is flip flopping? heard of a compromise?.. and he says it on video.. but it doesn't count?

            Originally posted by VWEBBJR View Post
            I believe Floyd more than Manny on THIS issue.
            I already knew this Coach.

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            • If the mayweathers dont want to fight Pac because he is beating people too brutally and they are scared, that is one thing,
              But to make the reason for not fighting him because you think he is on PEDs is another thing altogether. They have defamed him that is clear to anyone. They wont fight him because they think he is on PEDS and he needs testing and then they still wont fight him.

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              • Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                Damage came from Pacquiao and his team, I mean seriously
                Remember this Dom?\\
                Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                December 11:

                Freddie Roach: I have no problem with the testing whatsoever. They can do whatever (Keyword: Whatever) kind of drug testing that they want.

                December 14:

                Alex Ariza: I am the one in charge, I am the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes.


                December 22:

                Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter’s superstition of testing so close to a fight.

                Richard Schaefer: Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn’t want to do it so close to the fight. He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.

                In that same day,

                Freddie Roach: A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”

                How is HGH test done?

                More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.



                December 23:

                Bob Arum: Manny says that taking blood from him really weakens him. And he doesn't want to do it when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight. Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing.

                Freddie Roach: For the record, Pacquiao (Remember, he said Pacquiao) is willing to have his blood drawn before he starts training and after the fight to be tested for steroids and performance enhancing drugs. It’s not like Pacquiao is saying no to drugs.


                December 24:

                Arum: This kid has a phobia for getting his blood drawn.

                December 25:

                Manny Pacquiao plans to sue Floyd Mayweather, the American's father and Golden Boy Promotions in the next few days following a row over doping procedures, the Filipino world champion said in a statement on Friday.

                NYDailyNews. Tim Smith,

                This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.


                December 26:

                Manny Pacquiao: I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight.

                December 28

                Manny Pacquiao: I do not have anything to prove (to them) and hopefully, they would not succeed in destroying my image and the sport of boxing in the way they want it done. They want to dictate and step on the authority of the organizations including the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I am not guilty and I don’t have to prove anything because I have passed all tests in all my previous fights. I will all just see you in court.

                December 30:

                Alex Ariza: He’s willing to give the blood tests – just not two or three days before, for understable reasons.


                David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

                Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

                David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

                Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

                David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

                Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

                David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

                Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine.






                So, I guess this was all Floyd Sr.'s fault right? I think not.

                Men Lie, Women Lie, Quotations don't.

                Note: Notice how Roach/ Arum are degrading blood testing in general.

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                • Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
                  Uhh c'mon Coach..

                  Floyd went from.. easy fight/amateurish.. to just say my name.. to take OST (you're extraordinary).. to 14 days.. to 0 days.. is flip flopping? consistent?

                  Pacquaio 30 days.. 14 days to 0 days... is flip flopping? heard of a compromise?.. and he says it on video.. but it doesn't count?
                  When it came time to make the fight, Floyd offered Manny something that he didn't have to. I mean, this dude wanted a whole 30 days with no testing. Floyd cut it in half in the mediation to save the fight. Manny flat out rejected and fought Josh Clottey. LOL. And yes, Floyd has been consistent since Manny rejected the 14 day offer. NO TEST (no cut off), NO FIGHT. Simple. Manny and his team have danced around the whole testing issue since. Heck, when was the last time you even heard Roach talk about it??



                  Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
                  I already knew this Coach.
                  So why did you ask me?

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                  • Originally posted by VWEBBJR View Post
                    When it came time to make the fight, Floyd offered Manny something that he didn't have to. I mean, this dude wanted a whole 30 days with no testing. Floyd cut it in half in the mediation to save the fight.
                    Manny offered to partake in a testing procedure that he didn't have to.. But, now that Manny is willing to take the test.. this is all irrelevant Coach. Come back to 2011..

                    Originally posted by VWEBBJR View Post
                    Manny flat out rejected and fought Josh Clottey. LOL.
                    Yea since Floyd didn't want to fight.. Manny decided to clean out the WW division.. Shane/Berto/Floyd are left.

                    Originally posted by VWEBBJR View Post
                    And yes, Floyd has been consistent since Manny rejected the 14 day offer. NO TEST (no cut off), NO FIGHT. Simple.
                    Consistent? He went from 0 days to 14 days to 0 days to no fight? You said it yourself above.

                    Originally posted by VWEBBJR View Post
                    Manny and his team have danced around the whole testing issue since. Heck, when was the last time you even heard Roach talk about it??
                    Danced around the testing issue? Manny has compromised to get the fight done coach.. It's on video (will take the test). What does it matter what Roach said? Manny has said it himself.. not like that matters to you anyway.. as you stated in an earlier post.

                    Originally posted by VWEBBJR
                    I believe Floyd more than Manny


                    Originally posted by VWEBBJR View Post
                    So why did you ask me?

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                    • Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
                      Manny offered to partake in a testing procedure that he didn't have to.. But, now that Manny is willing to take the test.. this is all irrelevant Coach. Come back to 2011..
                      Yea and he tried to change the protocol and tell the people that were testing him WHEN he would get tested. LOL.

                      I'm in 2011, and Manny still wants a cut off, dude.

                      Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
                      Yea since Floyd didn't want to fight.. Manny decided to clean out the WW division.. Shane/Berto/Floyd are left.
                      LOL. So Floyd bent down to 14 days, but he didn't want to fight Manny? You sound like fcastro1 or puga. That's crazy.

                      Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
                      Consistent? He went from 0 days to 14 days to 0 days to no fight? You said it yourself above.

                      He didn't start at zero days dude, THAT'S THE STANDARD PROTOCOL. 14 was ONLY offered to accommodate the fighter that gets weak from getting his blood taken. And Manny flat out rejected it. So, SINCE THAT HAPPENED, Floyd has been consistent, dude. No test, no fight. Manny has been all over the place...since late 09. And because he hasn't wanted to take these tests, he's fought Clottey, Tony, and now Mosley. LOL. Terrible.



                      Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
                      Danced around the testing issue? Manny has compromised to get the fight done coach.. It's on video (will take the test). What does it matter what Roach said? Manny has said it himself.. not like that matters to you anyway.. as you stated in an earlier post.

                      Yea, dancing around the issue. Stop acting like you don't know what I'm talking about. And, what's the date on that video where he said he will take the test WITH NO CUT OFF. Is it before or after Koncz dropped the bomb that they would ONLY do 7 days?

                      And not much of what Manny says that he has agreed to means much to me because he has been back and forth so much since 2009, its hard to keep up. I mean, he was on Jimmy Kimmel talking about how he would be at a disadvantage taking the test because Mayweather is bigger than him. Its hilarious.

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