when toney was at cruiserweight versus when haye was there
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Toney and it's not even close. Even fatass toney today might give him a run for his money if Ruiz could for a few rounds.Comment
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James Toney would kill David Haye at Cruiserweight. Haye is surely not better than Jirov, whose career was basically ruined by the beating that Toney put on him
Toney was a beast at Cruisweight, which at the time was 190lbs. That was a perfect weight for him, even just at 200 he's was becoming less effective.Comment
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Toney makes a fool out of Haye
his defense is too good for Haye to bomb effectively
as a puncher, he'd follow Toney to the ropes, miss a lot, eat shotsComment
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Haye's not that special without his right hand, and Toney can neutralize just about any right hand and turn it against his opponent with his shoulder roll counter. Haye is not good enough to just dance around and try to outbox Toney. Mabe against bigger slower fighters. James has an underrated jab and eventhough he is flatfooted, he can rope Haye into countering his jab, so he can counter his counter.
Dude was still sharp at 190ish. He would have embarrassed Adamek too.Comment
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Man I'd have loved if this fight had happened ... if Toney had stuck around at cruiser for an extra year or two it may well have - if Toney had just managed to stay in shape and lay off the burgars its hard to see anybody beat him at cruiserweight ...Last edited by Daddy T; 03-30-2011, 05:28 PM.Comment
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I've never been impressed with Haye at all. He's not knocking Toney out, so I think Toney wins a clear decision.Comment
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Larry, you should put threads like this in the history section. We need the activity and the thread will get the proper respect.Comment
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