Astrologically: Berto Vs Ortiz is one sided and....

[Dawerlzgreatest]

hahaha exactly. Neither one is a freakin Arturo Gatti. when it comes to heart. I think they both can fold. It depends on who dictates the pace early and lands the harders shots early and makes it there fight. If Ortiz can use the jab to keep Berto at bay to land his good shots he can stop him because Ortiz is the best fighter Berto's ever fought and is alot better then those one dimensional bums. If Berto can land hard and make it ugly and throw off Ortiz's rhythem I think he can stop him too.

I can't wait, it's going to be a damn good fight, I think it's either ones fight to win or lose. They'll pull the best out of each other I think. They'll both need heart to survive the other and make it there fight.

Berto has never had to reach that deep into the well. but he has a deep well and I trust based on his cosmophysics that he can dig deep, while Victors well is pretty shallow.

[mathed]

what are you talking about?

I was kidding, wel kind of.....january 14, 1981...richmond, va, 6:30 am est

[Dawerlzgreatest]

Mathed hit me via pm Ill give you a preview , I dont want to put all your business out in the forum lol

[-Antonio-]

People keep questioning Ortiz's heart and they forget Berto has a weak chin. Doesn't matter how strong willed Berto is. If Ortiz avoids too much danger and picks his punches, he could easily give Berto trouble

Remember Ortiz is the best puncher Berto has faced. Urango may have been stronger, but he's slow. Collazo, Quintana, Forbes...not even close. He's going to be tested.

[GrandpaBernard]

I was kidding, wel kind of.....january 14, 1981...richmond, va, 6:30 am est

You have the Sun in Capricorn and Moon in Taurus. Those two signs are basically THE BEST signs for prizefighting.

Whitaker, Ali, Frazier, Patterson, Foreman, etc are all Capricorn Suns.

Taurus is great too: Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Joe Louis, etc all have their Suns there. Floyd Jr has his Moon in Taurus.

Your Mars is in Aquarius, a FIXED Air sign, which I consider a great Mars for boxing. Air signs are about objectivity and logic. Fixed Signs represent persistence, determination, and stubbornness.

"the mars placement is the placement of aggression, war, and battle. Back to mars, mars in air in my observation allows Floyd to “detach” from the fight and intellectualize and analyze on the fly. With that intellectual mars placement allows him to keep it cool in the face of danger and not waste energy or become rattled easily like someone with a water or fire mars."

SOmeone else with a Mars in Aquarius is Sugar Ray Leonard. You can see that Mars in Aquarius produces the smartest damn fighters in the sport when done right.

Are you naturally athletic or strong by any chance? You have MARS AND the Sun in the 1st house.

How do you feel about Floyd Jr's BOXING STYLE? Your Mars and his Mars are literally in the same spot. You both also have the Moon in Taurus.

[DJ OxXx]

Damn why is Pisces considered one of the weakest signs? This sign actually has incredible adaptability as the sign represents water. Water can be smooth and slick but it can also penetrate rock, it also can fit in an container. Bruce lee said it best, you want to be like water in a fight, which Pisces sign is big on. Floyd Mayweather is a Pisces, which explains why he can adjust on the fly in any fight. Anyways I'm a Pisces too and if anyone could tell me any interesting stuff about my Natal chart I would appreciate it. Birthdate is March 17th 1985 born in New York, New York at 2:45pm. Thanks in advance!

[GrandpaBernard]

Damn why is Pisces considered one of the weakest signs? This sign actually has incredible adaptability as the sign represents water. Water can be smooth and slick but it can also penetrate rock, it also can fit in an container. Bruce lee said it best, you want to be like water in a fight, which Pisces sign is big on. Floyd Mayweather is a Pisces, which explains why he can adjust on the fly in any fight. Anyways I'm a Pisces too and if anyone could tell me any interesting stuff about my Natal chart I would appreciate it. Birthdate is March 17th 1985 born in New York, New York at 2:45pm. Thanks in advance!

check my post in the other thread. Pisces CAN be a good influence in boxing.

[DJ OxXx]

check my post in the other thread. Pisces CAN be a good influence in boxing.

Thank you,just seen it and it makes sense. Anyways I'm a Pisces too and if you could or anyone else tell me any interesting stuff about my Sign/Natal chart I would appreciate it. Birthdate is March 17th 1985 born in New York, New York at 2:45pm. Im really interested in this stuff. You could put all my business out there too, I don't mind.

[Mr. Philadel]

cool thread ...what about a astrological breakdown of Pac-Mosley and B.hop-Pascal and Wlad-Haye?!?...those the 3 scraps I'm looking forward to

[gigogreco]

astrology is interesting, but eventhough it si quite interesting, i havent read anything on the subject.

if i posted my numbers, would any of you geniuses, read my signs..