Dwyer: "James DeGale Beats Andre Dirrell, Lucian Bute and Mikkel Kessler" (Video)

[Sparked_1985]

That is an extremely bold prediction. I think the best he's prob faced in sparring would be Nathan Cleverly.

If he overcomes groves which most think he will, Magee would pose a proper test.

I think Groves is a better test than Magee, imo.

Magee is an experienced vet but groves has the edge in power and has put people away with half-landed cuffing shots which is a sign of proper punching power.

The more you hear on Steve Bunce's show and other sources and from the mouth of Groves DeGale might be a bit fragile mentally.

[bboy80]

I think Groves is a better test than Magee, imo.

Id have to disagree there, he's been in with Froch & Bute ok who he lost to but they are the best in the world at there weights.

[Sparked_1985]

Id have to disagree there, he's been in with Froch & Bute ok who he lost to but they are the best in the world at there weights.

I agree with his experience.

But we've already seen DeGale get hit on the chin a few times. It's held up fine and the word seems to be he has a great chin anyway. But I think Groves will land on it and it will still be interesting to see what happens, and then there is whole beef they have.

If DeGale beats Groves easily then he might as well leap frog a guy like Magee and target guys like Sartison and Stieglitz.

[The_Demon]

In a few years time he will

[bboy80]

If DeGale beats Groves easily then he might as well leap frog a guy like Magee and target guys like Sartison and Stieglitz.

I doubt he would be able to leap frog and get a title fight with only 10 fights to his name. Magee still has the euro belt which earned him the right to fight for a title.

Anyway im looking forward to the fight should be a goodun.

[Sparked_1985]

I doubt he would be able to leap frog and get a title fight with only 10 fights to his name. Magee still has the euro belt which earned him the right to fight for a title.

Anyway im looking forward to the fight should be a goodun.

Yeah I can't wait.

I'm backing George to make some noise. Just seems like a decent fella, but James should be a level above him.

[Faerun]

Might beat Bute and Kessler but does not defeat Dirrell.

[johnm is...]

Why do people hinge on Dwyers every word? Yes, he does get a lot of fights right and has good insight but he certainly is not right all the time. He's just a knowledgeable fan but some people take his word as if it were gold.

Yeah, and a lot of the time, he's WAY off. He does a lot of hedging, or straddling, or whatever he calls it. Where best case scenario, you win a very minimal amount, and worst case scenario, you break even. I've done that myself, when the situation is right for it. Where you can bet 1 of the fighters straight (to win) at less than, say, 2/1 odds, and bet the opposing fighter to win, say, inside the distance, at good + odds.

Donaire/Montiel is a good example. You could have bet Donaire straight, and Montiel inside the distance (idea being that Montiel's only chance to win was by KO).

Then there are other situations that I feel like he completely misses out on some value. Like Bradley/Alexander. He suggested a straight wager on Bradley, and an inside the distance wager on Alexander. I was on these boards (and a couple of other boards), suggesting that people play Bradley straight, with the UNDER (I ended up with Bradley straight -190, and the under 9.5 rounds +400, but you could have played under 11.5 at like +275ish at some books). Because I felt like people were completely forgetting about the headbutt factor. Had fool's taken my advice, they would have scooped both bets, as the UNDER 9.5 rounds was a winner by a mere 30 seconds.

I'm not hating on Dwyer, because he's just trying to make a buck. But there are a lot of people out there that could start their own youtube channel, write a "how to bet on boxing" book, and come out MUCH more in the green, than he does.

[DeGold]

Top bloke Dwyer knows what time it is!

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