warren produces "evidence"

[J !]

if he has a signed letter then hatton is ****ed.


from the bbc.

Frank Warren has produced documentary evidence that he says confirms his Sports Network company has a binding contract with Ricky Hatton.
The contract for Hatton's bout with Ray Oliveira in December 2004 stated it was "pursuant to and in accordance with" a letter from Warren dated 7 December.

That letter stated Sports Network would promote Hatton's next four fights.

The fight contract was signed by Hatton and witnessed by Robert Smith of the British Boxing Board of Control.

The agreement was made on 11 December, the day of the fight with Oliveira.

Since then Hatton's only outing has been his world title victory over Kostya Tszyu.

Under such an agreement, Hatton would be tied to Sports Network for three more fights.

Hatton has denied any agreement tying him to Sports Network exists and that he should be free to talk to other promoters.

Warren initiated legal proceedings against Hatton earlier this month because of the disagreement.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

A signed contract doesn't mean what it used too...

You can have a signed contract nowadays and still lose a court case, Judges tend to take it into consideration, weigh up the pros and cons from both sides and then make an order.

I don't think all this legal mess is good for Hatton at this moment in time... He needs to be comfortable with his trainers and promoters, and everything should be running smoothly.

This mess will only distract him.

[J !]

agreed buit if warren has a 4 fight deal in black and white then im afraid it should be honoured.

dont sign what you dont mean.

[Parodius]

If Hatton can self promote himself, it will be great for his career. I hope every fighter self promote themselves or have person that they trust to promote them. I hate all promoters, all they care about is money, promoters have ****ed up boxing for good. It wont make any difference if it's Don King, Bob Arum, Oscar De Lay Hoya or Frank Warren. Their all evil.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

agreed buit if warren has a 4 fight deal in black and white then im afraid it should be honoured.

dont sign what you dont mean.

Yeah... I'm actually getting tired of all this "Warren vs Hatton" crap.

As a Ricky Hatton fan, I just wish they could either kiss and make up, or get it out the door as quick as possible... All these court dates that Hatton has to attend whilst he should be training for the Maussa fight WILL distract him whether he likes it or not.

It would be nice if someone could come in and take care of this contractual mess on behalf of Hatton and try to keep him as far away from it as possible.

Ricky won't have a long career because of the kind of fighter he is, so for the next 3yrs it's vital that he's focused if he wants to create a legacy.

[phil28]

if he has a signed letter then hatton is ****ed.


from the bbc.

Frank Warren has produced documentary evidence that he says confirms his Sports Network company has a binding contract with Ricky Hatton.
The contract for Hatton's bout with Ray Oliveira in December 2004 stated it was "pursuant to and in accordance with" a letter from Warren dated 7 December.

That letter stated Sports Network would promote Hatton's next four fights.

The fight contract was signed by Hatton and witnessed by Robert Smith of the British Boxing Board of Control.

The agreement was made on 11 December, the day of the fight with Oliveira.

Since then Hatton's only outing has been his world title victory over Kostya Tszyu.

Under such an agreement, Hatton would be tied to Sports Network for three more fights.

Hatton has denied any agreement tying him to Sports Network exists and that he should be free to talk to other promoters.

Warren initiated legal proceedings against Hatton earlier this month because of the disagreement.

What I want to know, is if Warren had this 'signed letter' all along, why has he waited this long to produce it?

Ricky and Ray Hatton have been saying for weeks for Frank to produce his evidence. It all seems more than a bit underhand to me.

And another thing (I'm ranting now), why the hell is a fighter under contract to a promoter? Surely it should be the other way around, it's the boxer who gets in the ring ffs.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

And another thing (I'm ranting now), why the hell is a fighter under contract to a promoter? Surely it should be the other way around, it's the boxer who gets in the ring ffs.

It's the Promoter that put's his hand in his pocket to set up the whole event.

[phil28]

It's the Promoter that put's his hand in his pocket to set up the whole event.

I know that Martin.

It just seems to me that promoters have way too much power. You can't tell me that Warren hasn't made millions off Hatton over the years.

I think a lot of this is down to Warren having signed an exclusive boxing deal with MEN Arena and Hatton no longer wanting to fight for him. I don't think Warren has too many other fighters who could sell the place out, maybe Amir Khan in a year or two.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

I know that Martin.

It just seems to me that promoters have way too much power. You can't tell me that Warren hasn't made millions off Hatton over the years.

I think a lot of this is down to Warren having signed an exclusive boxing deal with MEN Arena and Hatton no longer wanting to fight for him. I don't think Warren has too many other fighters who could sell the place out, maybe Amir Khan in a year or two.

I do agree that Promoters have way too much power... But I do completely understand their position. They've invested a lot of money into a fighter over the beginnin g of their career... They've been paying them a wage out of their own pocket whilst the fighter is just learning his trade.

They've also spent a lot of their own time promoting their fighter and matching him with the right guys at the right time.

So when the fighter reaches the top and is generating huge amounts of money, it's understandable that they don't want to let go, and they want to have the large piece of the pie.

Promoters invest a lot of money into fighters that don't make it and get beaten... That costs them money!

Promoters aren't all that bad... They're just looked upon as that way by the general public.

[J !]

im reading all kinds bout this, from the contract was signed before the addendum (i.e letter) to its bona fide.

if i hear more of internest ill pass it on.

trying to work out the bull**** from the real on this issue is pretty difficult as i know **** all about contract law.

Guess we wont find out properly til it goes to court.

of course the logic says its not as water tight as being made out by SN and its not as leaky as being made out by team hatton.

thats be me getting splinters in my arse sitting on the fence then