How would the Klitschkos do in any other era?

[Pirao]

Most of the "HWs" these guys are mentioning as beating the Klitschkos would be LHWs today, they wouldn't have a prayer. If you think they could beat the Klitschkos you're on crack

[Die Antwoord]

First of all anyone pre 1960 would be murdered. If you dont believe that, go to the boxing history section, get on your knees and start sucking up that pointless, nostalgic, geriatric **** loving nonsense they spew. Corrie Sanders at 18 years old was faster than the fastest man alive in the 1940's Thats all you need to know. Now, I am not saying Jesse Owens couldnt have trained better with modern technology, ate better, recovered better etc...BUT HE DIDNT HAVE MODERN TECHNOLOGY. You have to compare them as is and anyone who thinks an era where Corrie Sanders would have been the fastest man alive can compete with today in boxing is completely ******ed and should not be allowed to type things on the interweb.

After that you can look at the dominant fights of the 60's Liston and Ali. Liston was a bit of a joke, he was a coward, he either was paid off or quit in both fights with Ali...surprisingly in Ali 1 that fight was a draw up until when he quit. He would have been mortified to step in the ring with someone that big. How many times did Liston overcome a size disadvantage against an even decent opponent or hell, overcome NOT HAVING a size advantage...never. Ali of the 60's...you think Wlad has a bad chin, Ali was far more out of it against Henry 185 lbs of waterweight and bone Cooper than Wlad against Brewster. The ref just didnt call it for Ali and let him go to his corner, take smelling salts, have extra recovery time, etc...Neither one of these dudes would stand a chance, one right hand from Wlad would have knocked the Islam out of the coward Ali.

1970's...First of all if you mention Shavers, you are a moron. You are dumb as hell. You really are a testament to how natural selection no longer works and idiots are for some reason being allowed to live amongst us and reproduce with other morons. Anyone who mentions Shavers should have died of lead poisoning, starvation, or electrocution a long time ago. Congratulations you made it this far. Shavers was a bum. He would have been killed by Briggs. In fact look at the resumes Briggs is far more impressive. Shavers never beat anyone who was even decent and in their prime and he lost to flat out bums. In Shavers's prime he lost to a guy with a losing record. Do you understand that? He lost 10 rounds to a tiny guy with a losing record. Shavers ******. He was terrible. Dude lost all the time. Most of his record is fighting in Cleveland bars. Wow, he almost beat Ali...who the hell didnt.

Some moron up above said Ali was never in wars in the 70's...huh? Are you serious. Dude got more gifts than David Haye has ****** men. Young, Norton, Shavers...hell even Wepner gave him a war and Wepner was a YMCA fighter famous for continuing fights even though bleeding profusely. Vitali was like Big George just bigger and better in every way. Wait...you mean he doesnt charge at people wildly swinging and taking tons of shots if someone fights back? You mean instead he paces himself, leans back away from shots, and doesnt take powerful arm punches unless theres an opening...OMG he must suck then...

Vitali and Wlad would have dominated the 70's and all the Joe Louis fans would be jerking into their tissues crying about how the era now ****** and all the best boxers were killed in Vietnam.

80's...no one could touch either brother. Larry Holmes? Larry Holmes? You criticize this division...Larry Holmes had LHW's coming up and beating him because his era was so weak. Larry HOlmes...buncha garbage.

Tyson might cause Wlad some problems, but who knows. Wlad seems to have his chin issues taken care of and is avoiding taking shots better than anyone Ive seen. Tyson did have trouble knocking out big HW's and Wlad fights very similar to the Lewis that destroyed Tyson.

Tyson would have no chance against Vitali who would fight off his back foot and make Tyson quit after 8 or get Tyson Dq'ed around that time. Vitali woul dfrustrate tyson to the point of insanity.

90's...obviously Lewis would have been a great fight, Lewis, Vitali and Wlad are the 3 best HW's of all time, its not even debatable. Notice I didnt say greatest, I said best...theres a difference, look it up. Bowe...maybe in his mythical prime that lasted 17 days or something he could be up there, but who the hell knows anything about Bowe since the dude was in shape and semi-experienced maybe once in his career?

Outside of Lewis who I think both brothers would beat 6/10 times I see no one capable of even close to those odds. Especially not from before Tyson.

And whoever said Marciano would beat a Klitschko...dear god. Dear ****ing god.

[khepesh]

They've done well against pretty poor opposition. How would they fare in any era up until now? I can't see either of them making an impression any time but now.

Very, very well. Every time I read someone stating that a CW would knock them out in a round, I'd like to advise the guy to go meet a psychiatrist.

[Marchegiano]

Most of the "HWs" these guys are mentioning as beating the Klitschkos would be LHWs today, they wouldn't have a prayer. If you think they could beat the Klitschkos you're on crack

You can call me an idiot that's fine, but have you ever read about the guys from before gloved boxing? A growing trend here at the scene is to assume you know an era because you know of a handful of fighters from said era. Let me ask you and everyone else who thinks guys from lets say 1893 are too small and ,lol, "nonathletic" to perform today this. When have the Klitchsko's killed a man with a punch? What the hell would they do if they were taken into the 85th round? How many times in history has a man being out weigh by nearly 100lbs simply walked out and knock out the giant? What is the difference between the potential energy in a 185lb man's punch and a 300lb mans punch? How much kinetic energy is required to break a skull? What is the difference in skull density in 185 lber to a 300 lber? How much does displacement of impact effect the transfer of potential to kinetic?
I'm not the one speaking ignorantly about the era. It's real simply. Has you get closer to savage eras like the bronze age. You get harder, meaner, more resilient men. Do you honestly believe Vitali can go toe to toe with Prometheus?

I'll leave this thread with one last piece of history to drop. The early Spartans believed helmets were unnecessary and boxing prepared them for the inevitable blows to the head they would receive in battle. This was a non-competitive venture, and so the one being hardened stood and took blows until he was knocked out. Every Spartan soldier, by war time, could handle every other solder's best punches for no fewer than 500 punches. The size difference were well over 100lbs.

[Marchegiano]

First of all anyone pre 1960 would be murdered. If you dont believe that, go to the boxing history section, get on your knees and start sucking up that pointless, nostalgic, geriatric **** loving nonsense they spew. Corrie Sanders at 18 years old was faster than the fastest man alive in the 1940's Thats all you need to know. Now, I am not saying Jesse Owens couldnt have trained better with modern technology, ate better, recovered better etc...BUT HE DIDNT HAVE MODERN TECHNOLOGY. You have to compare them as is and anyone who thinks an era where Corrie Sanders would have been the fastest man alive can compete with today in boxing is completely ******ed and should not be allowed to type things on the interweb.

After that you can look at the dominant fights of the 60's Liston and Ali. Liston was a bit of a joke, he was a coward, he either was paid off or quit in both fights with Ali...surprisingly in Ali 1 that fight was a draw up until when he quit. He would have been mortified to step in the ring with someone that big. How many times did Liston overcome a size disadvantage against an even decent opponent or hell, overcome NOT HAVING a size advantage...never. Ali of the 60's...you think Wlad has a bad chin, Ali was far more out of it against Henry 185 lbs of waterweight and bone Cooper than Wlad against Brewster. The ref just didnt call it for Ali and let him go to his corner, take smelling salts, have extra recovery time, etc...Neither one of these dudes would stand a chance, one right hand from Wlad would have knocked the Islam out of the coward Ali.

1970's...First of all if you mention Shavers, you are a moron. You are dumb as hell. You really are a testament to how natural selection no longer works and idiots are for some reason being allowed to live amongst us and reproduce with other morons. Anyone who mentions Shavers should have died of lead poisoning, starvation, or electrocution a long time ago. Congratulations you made it this far. Shavers was a bum. He would have been killed by Briggs. In fact look at the resumes Briggs is far more impressive. Shavers never beat anyone who was even decent and in their prime and he lost to flat out bums. In Shavers's prime he lost to a guy with a losing record. Do you understand that? He lost 10 rounds to a tiny guy with a losing record. Shavers ******. He was terrible. Dude lost all the time. Most of his record is fighting in Cleveland bars. Wow, he almost beat Ali...who the hell didnt.

Some moron up above said Ali was never in wars in the 70's...huh? Are you serious. Dude got more gifts than David Haye has ****** men. Young, Norton, Shavers...hell even Wepner gave him a war and Wepner was a YMCA fighter famous for continuing fights even though bleeding profusely. Vitali was like Big George just bigger and better in every way. Wait...you mean he doesnt charge at people wildly swinging and taking tons of shots if someone fights back? You mean instead he paces himself, leans back away from shots, and doesnt take powerful arm punches unless theres an opening...OMG he must suck then...

Vitali and Wlad would have dominated the 70's and all the Joe Louis fans would be jerking into their tissues crying about how the era now ****** and all the best boxers were killed in Vietnam.

80's...no one could touch either brother. Larry Holmes? Larry Holmes? You criticize this division...Larry Holmes had LHW's coming up and beating him because his era was so weak. Larry HOlmes...buncha garbage.

Tyson might cause Wlad some problems, but who knows. Wlad seems to have his chin issues taken care of and is avoiding taking shots better than anyone Ive seen. Tyson did have trouble knocking out big HW's and Wlad fights very similar to the Lewis that destroyed Tyson.

Tyson would have no chance against Vitali who would fight off his back foot and make Tyson quit after 8 or get Tyson Dq'ed around that time. Vitali woul dfrustrate tyson to the point of insanity.

90's...obviously Lewis would have been a great fight, Lewis, Vitali and Wlad are the 3 best HW's of all time, its not even debatable. Notice I didnt say greatest, I said best...theres a difference, look it up. Bowe...maybe in his mythical prime that lasted 17 days or something he could be up there, but who the hell knows anything about Bowe since the dude was in shape and semi-experienced maybe once in his career?

Outside of Lewis who I think both brothers would beat 6/10 times I see no one capable of even close to those odds. Especially not from before Tyson.

And whoever said Marciano would beat a Klitschko...dear god. Dear ****ing god.

if that is a picture of you in your profile. Your too skinny armed to be so angry.

[The_Demon]

They would do well in the 80's,they would do well in the 90's too,ranked just behind Bowe,Lewis and Holyfield,who are simply better fighters.They would be top 10 in the golden era of Heavyweights,i can think 5 or 6 guys that could give either brother hell from that generation

[Buffalo]

I don't even like the klitschko's but let's be real, they are super heavy's. They would ko almost every great fighter of the past. Someone said that ali and frazier would do what lennox did..........lennox is huge compared to them, just as either brother would be. Doesn't make the klitschko's better, but with the size of modern athlete's do you really think 200 to 220 pound fighters have a prayer. Both brothers have skill matched with their size.........mismatch against so many in the past, tyson please he'd get jabbed to death. Frazier weighed 210, shavers was 210, patterson was about 190, hell foreman was 220 against ali, ali about 220 and even holmes retired the first time at 220 to 225. Giving up reach plus 30 to 40 pounds is suicide.

Foreman in his heyday along with maybe holmes in my opinion would have the best shot.

[SeattleSeahawks]

Any good heavyweight from Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Bowe, Lewis, Ron Lyle, Frazier, Tyson would beat either Klitschko. No 180 pound joke like Maricano or Dempsey would make it out of 1 round.

[SeattleSeahawks]

Foreman weighed 230 when he was a 19 pound amateur. He got lighter because **** Saddler was a idiot who dehydrated im. Wlad weighed about 215 for some earlier fights so is that his weight now too? Both Klits are roid users and that is why they bulked up. Various 6'3 plus guys from the 70s on could of weighed 250 if they wanted too but fighters back then tried to be in top shape to have some kind of speed.