who is kirkland for martinez to duck pullcounter??

[Pullcounter]

Whats wrong with now?

Are they cowards or something?

sergio is the champ and he should clean out the division.

i hope he doesn't duck those fights

[Rocky Rode]

he hasn't doesn't mean he can't.


the ginger's defense is as bad as kirklands, except kirkland doesn't gas like the ginger. the ginger gets destroyed. I would love to see the ginger get destroyed, but I don't see GBP putting their cash cow in with the beast that is kirkland.


not this summer, but by fall.


yep, hope martinez doesn't duck him.

I don't see Martinez going down to 154 unless it's a fight with Cotto, Mayweather, or Pac. He won't do it unless he gets big $$$

Canelo's defense isn't great, but Kirkland's defense doesn't exist.

Martinez is going to go after Chavez-Zbik winner in the fall. He wants his belt back... Either way, I bet Kirkland will be down to his natural 154 pound frame by fall.

Meh, who cares if he does. Pirog isn't even that great. It wouldn't be a big deal, IMO.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

sergio is the champ and he should clean out the division.

i hope he doesn't duck those fights

Pirog is a champion.

Kirkland has never fought in the division.

Good first fight for him.

Hopefully he doesnt duck

[Pullcounter]

I don't see Martinez going down to 154 unless it's a fight with Cotto, Mayweather, or Pac. He won't do it unless he gets big $$$

he'll do it if HBO forces his hand

Canelo's defense isn't great, but Kirkland's defense doesn't exist.

bottom line, both defenses suck and it should be a great fight until kirkland wears the ginger down. seriously don't see GBP putting their new cash cow in with kirkland.

Martinez is going to go after Chavez-Zbik winner in the fall. He wants his belt back... Either way, I bet Kirkland will be down to his natural 154 pound frame by fall.

whatever... fight pirog then the chavez/zbik winner. just don't duck pirog or kirkland.

Meh, who cares if he does. Pirog isn't even that great. It wouldn't be a big deal, IMO.

then you won't mind martinez taking pirog as a tune up fight for the summer. he should just get it out the way since it's sooooooooooo easy.

[Pullcounter]

Pirog is a champion.

Kirkland has never fought in the division.

Good first fight for him.

Hopefully he doesnt duck

cool... then sergio should fight pirog first, then kirkland later.

hope martinez doesn't duck them.

[Spray_resistant]

who has chavez jr beaten to get the shot at sergio???????

the fact that there is no clear cut #1 means sergio is free to fight kirkland.

it's too soon after sergio fought to say he's ducking anyone. I just hope he doesn't duck kirkland or pirog.

Or any random journeyman for that matter, he is back and any contention he had is gone now, Kirkland needs to beat someone decent 1st to be in the discussion to claim otherwise shows some kind of agenda.

[Pullcounter]

Or any random journeyman for that matter, he is back and any contention he had is gone now, Kirkland needs to beat someone decent 1st to be in the discussion to claim otherwise shows some kind of agenda.

yep, so he might as well fight kirkland or pirog.

martinez should just take him out. hope he doesn't duck them.

[Rocky Rode]

he'll do it if HBO forces his hand


bottom line, both defenses suck and it should be a great fight until kirkland wears the ginger down. seriously don't see GBP putting their new cash cow in with kirkland.


whatever... fight pirog then the chavez/zbik winner. just don't duck pirog or kirkland.


then you won't mind martinez taking pirog as a tune up fight for the summer. he should just get it out the way since it's sooooooooooo easy.

What other scenario would HBO force him to go to 154??

Kirkland's chin isn't great and Canelo hits pretty hard. I could see a KO either way.

I wouldn't mind that. But I'm not going to act like Martinez is a fraud or cherry picker if he doesn't fight Pirog.

[Spray_resistant]

yep, so he might as well fight kirkland or pirog.

martinez should just take him out. hope he doesn't duck them.

I hope Kirkland doesn't duck legit comp on the road to earning his title shot.

[Pullcounter]

What other scenario would HBO force him to go to 154??

dunno, but HBO has the clout to do it

Kirkland's chin isn't great and Canelo hits pretty hard. I could see a KO either way.

yeah, but more likely kirkland smashes the ginger kid

I wouldn't mind that. But I'm not going to act like Martinez is a fraud or cherry picker if he doesn't fight Pirog.

never said martinez is a fraud. clearly he's among the elite in all of boxing.

never said he is a cherrypicker... just hope he doesn't duck pirog.