Prime Mayorga vs the Cotto of today...who takes it?

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  • andres aza
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    Prime Mayorga vs the Cotto of today...who takes it?

    A fresher mayorga takes him out? Cotto always beats him? Thought and remember Mayois 38 n has been beat down many times. I gotta go with mayo by ko.....
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    #2
    Originally posted by andres aza
    A fresher mayorga takes him out? Cotto always beats him? Thought and remember Mayois 38 n has been beat down many times. I gotta go with mayo by ko.....
    That wasnt that far from prime Mayorga.

    It probably would have been a bit more competitive. But I see the same outcome.

    Mayorga did surprisingly good. I think what affects him the most is not the ring rust , but the fact that he is a heavy smoker.

    But he was himself in that fight. He was mentally there , physically there , and most important , he came to fight and win.

    But it was evident Cotto was too technical. And Mayorga couldnt hurt him.
    Mayorga doesnt create enough pressure to break Cotto down.

    I didnt see much difference from prime Mayorga and the one who fought last saturday.

    But thats just me.

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    • AllEyesOpen
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      Mayorga's explosiveness and power would have given Cotto a lot of problems. If Forrest couldn't outbox Mayorga then Cotto would have been stopped.

      I find the idea that Mayorga was anything more then a shadow of his former self against Cotto laughable.
      Last edited by AllEyesOpen; 03-16-2011, 12:32 PM.

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      • bojangles1987
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        It would have been more competitive because Mayorga would have been even crazier and thrown more, but Cotto would still win I think. I admit I never thought much of Mayorga.

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          #5
          Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
          Mayorga's explosiveness and power would have given Cotto a lot of problems. If Forrest couldn't outbox Mayorga then Cotto would have been stopped.

          I find the idea that Mayorga was anything more then a shadow of his former self laughable.
          So what exactly was he missing?

          He was never technical , he never threw straight punches , his punch output wasnt much bigger.

          Explosiveness? I saw him being pretty explosive. Im not going to say 100% of his power was there on saturday. But he looked pretty powerful when he threw his punches.

          He also did it with a lot of energy and confidence.

          Cotto's jab would have been on his face all night long , just like it was past saturday.

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          • AllEyesOpen
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            #6
            Originally posted by Mr Lucci
            So what exactly was he missing?

            He was never technical , he never threw straight punches , his punch output wasnt much bigger.


            Explosiveness? I saw him being pretty explosive. Im not going to say 100% of his power was there on saturday. But he looked pretty powerful when he threw his punches.

            He also did it with a lot of energy and confidence.

            Cotto's jab would have been on his face all night long , just like it was past saturday.
            Even the announcer's called it; he was throwing arm punches. He used to turn into his punches a bit more.

            He was gassed after about the 3 round.

            Also yes he was much more explosive, he would would fight in bursts more often per round and throw more punches per burst.

            And even as weak and exhausted he was he was still landing on Cotto regularly. Prime Mayorga would win it IMHO.
            Last edited by AllEyesOpen; 03-16-2011, 12:39 PM.

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            • BorderPatrol
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              #7
              No version of Mayorga beats Cotto. Mayorga had Vernon's number...Simple. It does not make this B level fighter able to beat Cotto at any stage in their careers. Mayorga is simply not good enough to beat smart fighters like Cotto with wild looping punches. Never going happen. Why do you think he was fliiping out in the ring and trying all sorts of dumb shyt? Because he could not figure out a way to beat Miguel.


              The only people who kid themselves are people who have a need to feel this way. Doesn't make it reality by any stretch.

              This thread will ID all Mexicans and South Americans with 100% accuracy.


              Trust me.
              Last edited by BorderPatrol; 03-16-2011, 12:48 PM.

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              • spyvsspy
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                Originally posted by Mr Lucci
                That wasnt that far from prime Mayorga.

                It probably would have been a bit more competitive. But I see the same outcome.

                Mayorga did surprisingly good. I think what affects him the most is not the ring rust , but the fact that he is a heavy smoker.

                But he was himself in that fight. He was mentally there , physically there , and most important , he came to fight and win.

                But it was evident Cotto was too technical. And Mayorga couldnt hurt him.
                Mayorga doesnt create enough pressure to break Cotto down.

                I didnt see much difference from prime Mayorga and the one who fought last saturday.

                But thats just me.
                This right there pretty much sums it up. Cotto kept to his gameplan in top fashion.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                  Even the announcer's called it; he was throwing arm punches. He used to turn into his punches a bit more.

                  He was gassed after about the 3 round.

                  Also yes he was much more explosive, he would would fight in bursts more often per round and throw more punches per burst.

                  And even as weak and exhausted he was he was still landing on Cotto regularly. Prime Mayorga would win it IMHO.
                  I know what the announcers said. But Ive seen Mayorga fight quite a few times to know.

                  In his defense , he was rusty , and should have prob taken a tune up fight.

                  But I just never saw Mayorga fight any differently.

                  Mayorga was trying to throw a lot of punches , but Cotto was blocking a lot of them and avoiding a lot too. He was also taking some of his best shots.

                  Mayorga landed good leather. You saw it after the fight.

                  I just believe Cotto , even in this stage of his career , was much more technical and much better than Mayorga.

                  The old (147) Cotto relied on bullying his opponent. The only fight where he resorted to boxing was with Mosley.

                  He cant bully anyone at 154. He just doesnt have the size to do it.

                  Mayorga was outboxed , and actually Cotto ****** him up too. In a smart way.

                  Like I said , I didnt see much difference from the old Mayorga.

                  Maybe I need to rewatch some of his fights. But I dont remember him being a different fighter.

                  He would have prob been a bit busier , and a bit more energetic. But thats it.

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                  • MXboxingfan
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mr Lucci
                    That wasnt that far from prime Mayorga.

                    It probably would have been a bit more competitive. But I see the same outcome.

                    Mayorga did surprisingly good. I think what affects him the most is not the ring rust , but the fact that he is a heavy smoker.

                    But he was himself in that fight. He was mentally there , physically there , and most important , he came to fight and win.

                    But it was evident Cotto was too technical. And Mayorga couldnt hurt him.
                    Mayorga doesnt create enough pressure to break Cotto down.

                    I didnt see much difference from prime Mayorga and the one who fought last saturday.

                    But thats just me.

                    Also, Miguel Cotto himself has been through a lot. He's probably not in his prime either.

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