double standards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Daddy T]

Pac is fighting guys that by rights are too big for him as it is I don't see why he should be asked to move up yet again. Its like somebody said if he was to somehow pull out the win what happens then? Do people start talking about how he should fight Carl Froch?

[tacuso]

A thread like this was already made, only it was less obvious the TS was on Pacquiao ballz...

And like the other thread, the TS forgot that everyone, including the HBO crew, suggested he move up to 168 for the fights, DUUHHHH..... Roy said he should do it, Lamply said he should do it and fight Andre Ward specifically.

And lets look at the differences, Martinez has never fought at 168, Pacquiao has fought at 154, and even has a belt at that weight. Say what u will about Pac not making 150 blah blah blah, but he still fought at the weight. Is it the fact that Martinez isn't a slow, forward plodding, wide-punching, damaged goods opponent that keeps Pac from being willing to make the leap again?

But other than that, the reality is PEOPLE DO WANT TO SEE MARTINEZ MOVE UP... So stop crying

I don't know why it is that Pacquiao's fans feel the need to defend him about this subject. No one significant is giving Pac a hard time about it, and Martinez isn't even pushing for it. He merely suggested it. Why so defensive?

Yes he fought for a 154 belt against Marg, but it is also during this time that they realized he could be hurt bad. They immediately announced Pac is not fighting above 147. Sergio is not yet in the limelight at this time.

[jtiger777]

Yes he fought for a 154 belt against Marg, but it is also during this time that they realized he could be hurt bad. They immediately announced Pac is not fighting above 147. Sergio is not yet in the limelight at this time.

pac won that fight with no issues he wasnt hurt

[Daddy T]

pac won that fight with no issues he wasnt hurt

he was hurt Pac himself admitted as much

[JDezi4]

Yes he fought for a 154 belt against Marg, but it is also during this time that they realized he could be hurt bad. They immediately announced Pac is not fighting above 147. Sergio is not yet in the limelight at this time.

Well, if u wanna talk double standards...

FLOYD SAID, BEFORE the Mosley fight and BEFORE the second negotiations, that if Pac doesn't agree to FULL OST there would be no fight PERIOD. But when Pac's team decided to agree to the 14 day (or 7 day according to Koncs) cutoff, which is not FULL OST, everyone gave Floyd a hard time...

Floyd did say it...

Manny also did SAY it... but how can u not expect him to be criticized for KEEPING HIS WORD, same as Floyd, when the reality is, the fans want to see it?

Simply; Manny could find some compromise with his statement just to make the fight everyone wants to see (other than people that are afraid Manny will lose), just like Floyd should have compromised his statement just to make the fight everyone wants to see.

double standards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Floyd still got criticized, Manny will still get criticized... the way the boxing world is

[Chuckguy]

and then haters will always find a way to downplay the fight..

pac only fought weight drained fighters.. blah blah blah..

yah we will because arum will make the fight at 148 or some bull**** catchweight
just to get every single advantage for pac
thats what bull sh it really is
its not haters its realist

I keep it real

you idiots including the pathetic TS want martinez to figth at 168 and lhw based on the fact he weighed 170 on fight night
why werent you guys crying for pac to fight at ww years ago when he would be at 142 144 on fight nights when he was fighting at 126?

[Deevel916]

A thread like this was already made, only it was less obvious the TS was on Pacquiao ballz...

And like the other thread, the TS forgot that everyone, including the HBO crew, suggested he move up to 168 for the fights, DUUHHHH..... Roy said he should do it, Lamply said he should do it and fight Andre Ward specifically.

And lets look at the differences, Martinez has never fought at 168, Pacquiao has fought at 154, and even has a belt at that weight. Say what u will about Pac not making 150 blah blah blah, but he still fought at the weight. Is it the fact that Martinez isn't a slow, forward plodding, wide-punching, damaged goods opponent that keeps Pac from being willing to make the leap again?

But other than that, the reality is PEOPLE DO WANT TO SEE MARTINEZ MOVE UP... So stop crying

I don't know why it is that Pacquiao's fans feel the need to defend him about this subject. No one significant is giving Pac a hard time about it, and Martinez isn't even pushing for it. He merely suggested it. Why so defensive?

Fighting someone who weighs in at 154 the day before the fight is one thing. Fighting someone who will weigh in 154, then come in the ring at 170 is another.

[Deevel916]

Well, if u wanna talk double standards...

FLOYD SAID, BEFORE the Mosley fight and BEFORE the second negotiations, that if Pac doesn't agree to FULL OST there would be no fight PERIOD. But when Pac's team decided to agree to the 14 day (or 7 day according to Koncs) cutoff, which is not FULL OST, everyone gave Floyd a hard time...

Floyd did say it...

Manny also did SAY it... but how can u not expect him to be criticized for KEEPING HIS WORD, same as Floyd, when the reality is, the fans want to see it?

Simply; Manny could find some compromise with his statement just to make the fight everyone wants to see (other than people that are afraid Manny will lose), just like Floyd should have compromised his statement just to make the fight everyone wants to see.

double standards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Floyd still got criticized, Manny will still get criticized... the way the boxing world is

Floyd got criticized because he's trying to implement blood testing that's not even asked for by the commisions itself with no merit as to why the testing is even needed. So because he "thinks" Pac may be on something Pac has to undergo random blood testing up until the day of the fight? Lets be real. Its all a hurdle from making the biggest fight since Ali/Frazier from happening.

OST with a 7 day cutoff, unlimited urine up until fight night, and an immediate blood and urine test after the fight. If Floyd feels this isnt sufficient enough to get the fight done, then he just doesnt want to fight Pac, and if Floyd fans feel this isnt enough to get the fight done, then they're only intersted in what Floyd wants and not the actual fight!

[Deevel916]

People seem to forget that Martinez weighed 170 for his last fight.

[JDezi4]

Floyd got criticized because he's trying to implement blood testing that's not even asked for by the commisions itself with no merit as to why the testing is even needed. So because he "thinks" Pac may be on something Pac has to undergo random blood testing up until the day of the fight? Lets be real. Its all a hurdle from making the biggest fight since Ali/Frazier from happening.

OST with a 7 day cutoff, unlimited urine up until fight night, and an immediate blood and urine test after the fight. If Floyd feels this isnt sufficient enough to get the fight done, then he just doesnt want to fight Pac, and if Floyd fans feel this isnt enough to get the fight done, then they're only intersted in what Floyd wants and not the actual fight!

That's all a discussion for another thread... U know the one. Its the same one that's keeps getting made over and over, and will keep getting made over and over until Floyd and/or Manny die.

That wasn't the point I was trying to make. Thank u for not getting it, it always gives me a sense of pride to know that my intellect surpasses other people's...