Why Cotto(and certain other fighters) will not get into the IBHOF

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  • Ray*
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    #11
    If Barry "****ing" Mcguigan can get in then ANYBODY can after their careers are over.

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    • machotime
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      and if you think that Hamed is a 'possible', yet Cotto isn't, there is really something wrong with you. What exactly did Hamed do besides come to the states and show that he couldnt hang with real competition?

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        #13
        Originally posted by blackirish137
        even if he does unify 154(unlikely), you really think he would have priority over the above mentioned fighters? maybe Wladimir, possibly Marquez, but thats it.
        I look at it this way. As far as popularity he is past both of those guys. He's shared the ring with just about everybody's favorite boxer and he earned his place. And he sells tickets. I feel like popular goes a long way.

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          #14
          Originally posted by machotime
          and if you think that Hamed is a 'possible', yet Cotto isn't, there is really something wrong with you. What exactly did Hamed do besides come to the states and show that he couldnt hang with real competition?
          Yeah. If Hamed gets in and Cotto's out the IBHOF loses all credibility.

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          • STRUGG
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            #15
            Cotto will get in............after he destroys MARG

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              #16
              Originally posted by Ray*
              If Barry "****ing" Mcguigan can get in then ANYBODY can after their careers are over.
              You obviously dont understand what McGuigan did for the sport in Britain. He was a HUGE deal, and when he fought Catholics and Protestants would stop killing one another. he had a very big impact on boxing.

              also McGuigan wasnt exactly **** either. he beat Juan LaPorte, Jose Caba, and Bernard Taylor when they were top guys in the division, and also became lineal champ when he beat LONG reigning champ Eusebio Pedroza...which is something Cotto has never done(become lineal champ).
              Originally posted by machotime
              and if you think that Hamed is a 'possible', yet Cotto isn't, there is really something wrong with you. What exactly did Hamed do besides come to the states and show that he couldnt hang with real competition?
              Hamed did more for boxing than Cotto did, and beat a lot of quality fighters. and I do think Cotto is a possible, but so is Hamed(and others along his calibur)...theyll have to choose between the two, which lessens Cotto's chances even more.
              Originally posted by machotime
              You have to be retired for 5 years before being considered. All except one of the fighters you mentioned do not even meet the criteria.
              thats exactly the point. by the time Cotto is eligible, those fighters will be as well. and he will be put on the backshelf compared to those other guys, and unless there is a big lull, his time will very likely pass.

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                #17
                Cotto is a lock.

                Dude ran through several top fighters.

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                • savorduhflavor
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by blackirish137
                  You obviously dont understand what McGuigan did for the sport in Britain. He was a HUGE deal, and when he fought Catholics and Protestants would stop killing one another. he had a very big impact on boxing.

                  also McGuigan wasnt exactly **** either. he beat Juan LaPorte, Jose Caba, and Bernard Taylor when they were top guys in the division, and also became lineal champ when he beat LONG reigning champ Eusebio Pedroza...which is something Cotto has never done(become lineal champ).

                  Hamed did more for boxing than Cotto did, and beat a lot of quality fighters. and I do think Cotto is a possible, but so is Hamed(and others along his calibur)...theyll have to choose between the two, which lessens Cotto's chances even more.


                  thats exactly the point. by the time Cotto is eligible, those fighters will be as well. and he will be put on the backshelf compared to those other guys, and unless there is a big lull, his time will very likely pass.
                  There will inevitably be a lull. And you're underestimating his reputation amongst writers.

                  Because in boxing there is only one statistic, records, other things come into play. Like I said earlier, he was part of huge events, great fights, and has a great reputation amongst boxing people as a class act. And he's been a champ fighting great competition since like 03-04.

                  For better or worse, these things matter.

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                    #19
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                    He might fight Margarito at the New Meadowlands Stadium.(doubt it)

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                    • machotime
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by blackirish137
                      You obviously dont understand what McGuigan did for the sport in Britain. He was a HUGE deal, and when he fought Catholics and Protestants would stop killing one another. he had a very big impact on boxing.

                      also McGuigan wasnt exactly **** either. he beat Juan LaPorte, Jose Caba, and Bernard Taylor when they were top guys in the division, and also became lineal champ when he beat LONG reigning champ Eusebio Pedroza...which is something Cotto has never done(become lineal champ).

                      Hamed did more for boxing than Cotto did, and beat a lot of quality fighters. and I do think Cotto is a possible, but so is Hamed(and others along his calibur)...theyll have to choose between the two, which lessens Cotto's chances even more.

                      thats exactly the point. by the time Cotto is eligible, those fighters will be as well. and he will be put on the backshelf compared to those other guys, and unless there is a big lull, his time will very likely pass.
                      you missed my point. your pointing out fighters that have yet to be inducted as proof why cotto wont. your logic is sloppy.

                      also, Hamed did not beat champions and future HOFs like Cotto did. He came to the states, was embarrassed by Barrera, then fought one fight against a C level fighter and retired.

                      By the time Cotto is eligible, most of the future HOFs you mentioned will have already been inducted.

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