Two thoughts on Martinez:

[victorythagr8]

Sergio is good but hes not the worthy enough to be mentionn among the greats he has long way to go. Everyone expect him to win against this guy that round 8 is enough to convince me that he is hittable and still need more skills to improve

**** the first paul william fight was enough to see that he is hittable since paul williams is nowhere near as skilled.

The problem against martinez opponent is that martinez is such a good counter puncher and he throws them with bad intention.

[straightleft]

Sergio Martinez IS the #1 p4p fighter right now. He has beaten all top young opposition in rapid succession and in spectacular fashion.

No old washed up fighters or fighters that are smaller than him. Or weight stipulations that make a mockery of a title fight.

The other thought is that today the commentators were really on Roy's nuts tonight. Comparing him constantly with Sergio. I like Roy as a person he seems ok. BUT....

Sergio is a much better fighter than Roy ever was. Even at this age with the recognition he still wants to fight real challenges.

Seriously. If you look at his 3 notable wins. Nothing you can't say anything about them being a lineal champ, a multiple divisions champion, HOF, considered an ATG.
Welterweight -
Light Middleweight -
Middleweight - Dzinziruk undefeated but so did Golovkin, Sbik, N'Jikam, Lemieux, etc. and being undefeated doesn't mean you are great HOF fighter specially when people ask you. Who did he beat?
Pavlik a good win but who did he beat after his loss to Hopskins?
Williams beat him before so its just kinda even right now.

So his case being P4P# 1 pointing to his two wins against Palvik and Dzinziruk. beside when did he became a p4p# 3 when he beat Palvik? then became no. 2 after he beat Williams? then finally became p4p# 1 after he beat Dzinziruk? WTF! These people hyping Martinez being a P4P# 1 they must be smoking some crack. I can't imagine they completely bypassing other fighters who worked so hard in their ranks.

[Rocky Rode]

The funny part is that pacquaio was the only fighter that can truely said they clearly beat clottey.

Just imagine if pacquaio fought Berto and whoop his ass....seeing how they discredit his marg, morrales, hatton, clottey and cotto wins with ease that i know for sure Berto will be labeled as bum since he is nowhere near as accomplished as those fighters.

Margarito cleary beat Clottey 8 rounds to 4, IMO. I've never heard anyone say Clottey won that fight either. The fight was competitive, but Margarito cleary won it.

If Berto fought Pac I would give Pac credit. Berto is the 3rd best Welterweight out there and if the top 2 guys aren't fighting then one of them should be going after Berto, IMO. People will always find a way to discredit ALL top fighters. It's just part of being ontop. Floyd, Pac, Klitschko...They all have a ton of hater who are always trying to discredit every single win they get.

[AIR_KENG]

Sergio Martinez IS the #1 p4p fighter right now. He has beaten all top young opposition in rapid succession and in spectacular fashion.

No old washed up fighters or fighters that are smaller than him. Or weight stipulations that make a mockery of a title fight.

The other thought is that today the commentators were really on Roy's nuts tonight. Comparing him constantly with Sergio. I like Roy as a person he seems ok. BUT....

Sergio is a much better fighter than Roy ever was. Even at this age with the recognition he still wants to fight real challenges.

Sergio is number 1 because Pac KO'd Morales twice.

Hehe, just kidding bro. Haven't seen you in a long time.