Hmmm...let's see..."Elite Fighters"

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  • fightfan_79
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    Hmmm...let's see..."Elite Fighters"

    This is general question...hoping for educated and intelligent posting and discussion.....

    Elite Fighters....we place this title to a select few....and each fighter with this title has his following of fans. I was looking up records for some of these elite fighters (boxrec) and stumbled upon the following....

    Almost all the fighters we call "elite", have faced no more than 1 or 2 other fighters who have undefeated records...most of the time, this has happened in the earlier stages of their careers...

    99% of all fighters we call elite now have at least 1 blemish on their record...the other 1% fall Floyd or "untested" (Berto/Bradley/JuanMa)

    Don't really know if what I'm trying to say is getting put into words correctly...but hopefully there are fans out there that get where I'm trying to go with this....

    So is there really such a thing as an "ELITE FIGHTER".....or is it time to go home, have a cold one and throw on the "Roy Jones Jr Greatest KOs" dvd?
  • Rab-
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    #2
    Jose Miguel Cotto is not an elite fighter and was a blown up lighweight yet he almost knocked Canelo the **** out in the first round.

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    • fightfan_79
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      #3
      Originally posted by Rab-
      Jose Miguel Cotto is not an elite fighter and was a blown up lighweight yet he almost knocked Canelo the **** out in the first round.
      Neither fighter I don't think should have the "elite fighter" title....so yeah.

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      • -EAGLE-
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        #4
        Originally posted by Rab-
        Jose Miguel Cotto is not an elite fighter and was a blown up lighweight yet he almost knocked Canelo the **** out in the first round.
        you really don't like the ginger huh

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        • danny711
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          #5
          I would take Bradley out of the "untested" category. He's been taking on tough opponents and showed plenty of heart in comming off the canvas to win.

          I see what you mean though. Elite is relative.

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          • bojangles1987
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            #6
            There are only five elite fighters in the world right now IMO:

            Manny Pacquiao
            Floyd Mayweather
            Juan Manuel Marquez
            Wlad Klitschko
            Vitali Klitschko

            Sergio Martinez, Nonito Donaire, Andre Ward, Amir Khan, Tim Bradley, Juan Manuel Lopez, Yuri Gamboa, and some others I'm sure I'm forgetting are all a couple more impressive wins from joining that list, and the Klitschkos need to beat Haye if they actually get to fight him or they will be removed from consideration.

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            • Conkr
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              #7
              Originally posted by -EAGLE-
              you really don't like the ginger huh
              [IMG]http://i1119.***********.com/albums/k636/jcvaldz/Gifs/Arthur-HATERSGONNAHATE-1.gif[/IMG]
              Last edited by Conkr; 03-11-2011, 03:08 PM.

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              • Russian Crushin
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                #8
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                There are only five elite fighters in the world right now IMO:

                Manny Pacquiao
                Floyd Mayweather
                Juan Manuel Marquez
                Wlad Klitschko
                Vitali Klitschko

                Sergio Martinez, Nonito Donaire, Andre Ward, Amir Khan, Tim Bradley, Juan Manuel Lopez, Yuri Gamboa, and some others I'm sure I'm forgetting are all a couple more impressive wins from joining that list, and the Klitschkos need to beat Haye if they actually get to fight him or they will be removed from consideration.
                I completely agree

                Those are the only fighters that can be called "elite"

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                • eveningmass79
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                  #9
                  Having blemishes on your record doesn't prevent you from being "elite".

                  To be considered elite you need to face other elite fighters - if you do this often enough then you will lose at some point, no matter how good you are.

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                  • fightfan_79
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by eveningmass79
                    Having blemishes on your record doesn't prevent you from being "elite".

                    To be considered elite you need to face other elite fighters - if you do this often enough then you will lose at some point, no matter how good you are.
                    Exactly....I created a thread some time ago on that topic...

                    These fighters that we call ELITE...all have Ls on their record (save for Floyd)....

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