Will the Ortiz fight slow down the critics?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Here's another question, is there anyway you see Ortiz beating Berto?

[J Dubb II 330]

No there isn't, not a scenario. and as a reply to Conkr I'm the one with the points, you have stated no reason why Ortiz will win.

[Rome-By-Ko]

My reasons for not liking Berta..

1.Resume is the biggest reason,he never rematch Collazo(who I thought beat him)he fought two Jr WW and is about to make it three..The fight with Mosley fell threw kool it was not his fault,but Mosley was ready to fight him again after the May fight and Berta ask for 50/50??After Mosley just was on PPV and help sell how many tickets/PPV sells,this was a clear duck imo..Oh and he himself said he would not fight Cintron..

2.I have not seen growth in Berta at all,he reminds me of Alexander..He does not change anything he does its all the same..Ill admit he it he is very talented but I can tell he does not have the work eithic to match..

At the end of the day its time to show improve,after this fight with Ortiz(which is not and easy win)he has to step it up and fight some good fighters already..Cintron and Pwilly ae coming to 147lb,Margas and Cotto are. Good names do something and make sure the fighters are at WW..That will go along way to get Berta some respect..

[Conkr]

No there isn't, not a scenario. and as a reply to Conkr I'm the one with the points, you have stated no reason why Ortiz will win.

cause ortiz is vicious, duh! I think ortiz has a chance in the first half of the fight. oh, and since i dont care much for your points and since berto already won to you, how about it?? ortiz wins u leave, berto wins i leave??

[Rome-By-Ko]

Here's another question, is there anyway you see Ortiz beating Berto?

Ortiz has the skills to beat Berta,I just don't know if he has the balls to do it..Ortiz needs to focus on his uppercut and jab..He should also fight off his backfoot till about the 5 or 6 rd then start to come forward and don't let Berta breath..The biggest question is the demons and if Ortiz has let them out of his head,if the ghost of Maidana's past is still haunting him he will lose and lose bad imo..

[DoktorSleepless]

To his defense Cintron only called him out after his move to light middle, as far as I know, Berto has said he would fight him, but this is mostly on Dibella who is reluctant to make the fight happen.

How do you know this? I haven't read anyone that Dibella doesn't want to make it. And I as far as remember, Berto hasn't said he wants the fight.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Why would it? Ortiz hasnt done anything at 140, let alone 147

[Rome-By-Ko]

cause ortiz is vicious, duh! I think ortiz has a chance in the first half of the fight. oh, and since i dont care much for your points and since berto already won to you, how about it?? ortiz wins u leave, berto wins i leave??

Ortiz has not been vicious in a longtime,but he will need to be to beat Berto..

[AllEyesOpen]

Why would it? Ortiz hasnt done anything at 140, let alone 147

exactly, if he wins, critics will still see it as another jww being fed to Berto. It's a lose/lose.

[J Dubb II 330]

One Dibella has the power to make the fight between two fighters, has yet to do so, Also if Cintron wanted the fight that bad, he would have Dibella draw up a contract, same with Berto. Berto has been quoted with articles on here and on twitter after Cintron goes on his rampage and said he would like to fight Cintron. Like I also said since the Bravo fight this is only the second lww Berto has fought