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Originally posted by Code Red View PostHey I wish urine could detect the latest and greatest PEDS, if blood test were uneccesary perfect. This is only bad news for Manny "what day is the test" Pacquiao. Thing is this only for HGH, what about EPO, testosterone, etc...
2. manny was and IS ok with unlimited urine tests from start of training up to right after the fight, so these tests are more than welcome.
3. urine tests can detect EPO and other PEDS. in fact, the ONLY thing the blood tests were for was to detect HGH. (which has questionable benefits in itself)
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Originally posted by BlowMe! View Postthat's good now lets see who bluffs, either Floyd begins to say he doesn't trust the new tests (even though the old test didn't catch anyone in history, you really think no one took hgh?) or Manny has a problem with giving urine now.......waiting.........
1. pac would suddenly have a problem with random urine tests.
OR
2. floyd jr would suddenly have a problem with the tests itself and find ANOTHER excuse not to fight Pac.
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I could care less if they are all on steroids. Steroids don't make you more skilled or elusive or smarter, they just enable you to train harder. But you still have to do the work. They won't turn a fat boy like James Toney into a ripped beast like David Haye, they just enable an athlete to train longer and harder - and in some cases recover quicker.
The only people interested in drugs testing should be the boxing authorities and not individual fighters calling out other fighters, that's just unsporting and ignorant... reminds me of a witch hunt. When it comes from the Mayweathers - a family of women beaters and drug felons then I find it even more disturbing that people buy into it. They have no moral integrity and should be the last people pointing fingers at someone else.
/rant.
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Originally posted by Ray Dollars View PostI could care less if they are all on steroids. Steroids don't make you more skilled or elusive or smarter, they just enable you to train harder. But you still have to do the work. They won't turn a fat boy like James Toney into a ripped beast like David Haye, they just enable an athlete to train longer and harder - and in some cases recover quicker.
The only people interested in drugs testing should be the boxing authorities and not individual fighters calling out other fighters, that's just unsporting and ignorant... reminds me of a witch hunt. When it comes from the Mayweathers - a family of women beaters and drug felons then I find it even more disturbing that people buy into it. They have no moral integrity and should be the last people pointing fingers at someone else.
/rant.
True that... Surprisingly the Mayweathers who have ZERO credibility on the PED issues have a group of Mayweather disciples that believe Roger, May Sr. and May Jr... Nothing out of their mouths should be taken seriously...
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Originally posted by Ray Dollars View PostI could care less if they are all on steroids. Steroids don't make you more skilled or elusive or smarter, they just enable you to train harder. But you still have to do the work. They won't turn a fat boy like James Toney into a ripped beast like David Haye, they just enable an athlete to train longer and harder - and in some cases recover quicker.
The only people interested in drugs testing should be the boxing authorities and not individual fighters calling out other fighters, that's just unsporting and ignorant... reminds me of a witch hunt. When it comes from the Mayweathers - a family of women beaters and drug felons then I find it even more disturbing that people buy into it. They have no moral integrity and should be the last people pointing fingers at someone else.
/rant.
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Originally posted by Code Red View PostHey I wish urine could detect the latest and greatest PEDS, if blood test were uneccesary perfect. This is only bad news for Manny "what day is the test" Pacquiao. Thing is this only for HGH, what about EPO, testosterone, etc...
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Originally posted by Ray Dollars View PostI could care less if they are all on steroids. Steroids don't make you more skilled or elusive or smarter, they just enable you to train harder. But you still have to do the work. They won't turn a fat boy like James Toney into a ripped beast like David Haye, they just enable an athlete to train longer and harder - and in some cases recover quicker.
The only people interested in drugs testing should be the boxing authorities and not individual fighters calling out other fighters, that's just unsporting and ignorant... reminds me of a witch hunt. When it comes from the Mayweathers - a family of women beaters and drug felons then I find it even more disturbing that people buy into it. They have no moral integrity and should be the last people pointing fingers at someone else.
/rant.
You're post would make sense IF Manny or his mouthpieces would have flat out refused to undergo testing protocols under USADA when it was first proposed back in 2009.
They DID NOT REFUSE nor did they REJECT the idea of additional testing which includes blood drawing.
In fact, random blood and urine testing was already part of the contract. It was one of the first proposals written at the beginning of the contract.
All we got from Team Pacquiao was excuses and a run around.
So what are you trying to make people believe?
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Originally posted by MindBat View PostWhat the hell are you talking about?
You're post would make sense IF Manny or his mouthpieces would have flat out refused to undergo testing protocols under USADA when it was first proposed back in 2009.
They DID NOT REFUSE nor did they REJECT the idea of additional testing which includes blood drawing.
In fact, random blood and urine testing was already part of the contract. It was one of the first proposals written at the beginning of the contract.
All we got from Team Pacquiao was excuses and a run around.
So what are you trying to make people believe?
My comment was - let the authorities deal with drug testing and let the fighters do the fighting. Fighters shouldn't be calling out other fighters as cheats.
Or perhaps you misunderstood my whole post. But that's okay.
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