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  • #11
    Originally posted by ThePrince View Post
    The basic premise of the nanotrap technology is that it can detect particles that other screening tests do ineffectively or not at all. It can be tailored to detect HGH, anabolic steroids, anything. And EPO and testosterone are already detected by urine tests, FYI. The new technology would make it easier to detect for longer periods of time most likely.
    that's good now lets see who bluffs, either Floyd begins to say he doesn't trust the new tests (even though the old test didn't catch anyone in history, you really think no one took hgh?) or Manny has a problem with giving urine now.......waiting.........

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Code Red View Post
      Hey I wish urine could detect the latest and greatest PEDS, if blood test were uneccesary perfect. This is only bad news for Manny "what day is the test" Pacquiao. Thing is this only for HGH, what about EPO, testosterone, etc...
      1. you're an idiot. pac NEVER wanted to know what day the tests would be. he just wanted the tests anytime up to a certain point. and that timetable is just seven days. since this new test allows detection of usage within two weeks, then it definitely solves THAT problem.

      2. manny was and IS ok with unlimited urine tests from start of training up to right after the fight, so these tests are more than welcome.

      3. urine tests can detect EPO and other PEDS. in fact, the ONLY thing the blood tests were for was to detect HGH. (which has questionable benefits in itself)

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      • #13
        Originally posted by BlowMe! View Post
        that's good now lets see who bluffs, either Floyd begins to say he doesn't trust the new tests (even though the old test didn't catch anyone in history, you really think no one took hgh?) or Manny has a problem with giving urine now.......waiting.........
        well, summarizing what you just said, i guess it boils down to one of two things that would happen.

        1. pac would suddenly have a problem with random urine tests.

        OR

        2. floyd jr would suddenly have a problem with the tests itself and find ANOTHER excuse not to fight Pac.

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        • #14
          I could care less if they are all on steroids. Steroids don't make you more skilled or elusive or smarter, they just enable you to train harder. But you still have to do the work. They won't turn a fat boy like James Toney into a ripped beast like David Haye, they just enable an athlete to train longer and harder - and in some cases recover quicker.

          The only people interested in drugs testing should be the boxing authorities and not individual fighters calling out other fighters, that's just unsporting and ignorant... reminds me of a witch hunt. When it comes from the Mayweathers - a family of women beaters and drug felons then I find it even more disturbing that people buy into it. They have no moral integrity and should be the last people pointing fingers at someone else.

          /rant.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Ray Dollars View Post
            I could care less if they are all on steroids. Steroids don't make you more skilled or elusive or smarter, they just enable you to train harder. But you still have to do the work. They won't turn a fat boy like James Toney into a ripped beast like David Haye, they just enable an athlete to train longer and harder - and in some cases recover quicker.

            The only people interested in drugs testing should be the boxing authorities and not individual fighters calling out other fighters, that's just unsporting and ignorant... reminds me of a witch hunt. When it comes from the Mayweathers - a family of women beaters and drug felons then I find it even more disturbing that people buy into it. They have no moral integrity and should be the last people pointing fingers at someone else.

            /rant.

            True that... Surprisingly the Mayweathers who have ZERO credibility on the PED issues have a group of Mayweather disciples that believe Roger, May Sr. and May Jr... Nothing out of their mouths should be taken seriously...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Ray Dollars View Post
              I could care less if they are all on steroids. Steroids don't make you more skilled or elusive or smarter, they just enable you to train harder. But you still have to do the work. They won't turn a fat boy like James Toney into a ripped beast like David Haye, they just enable an athlete to train longer and harder - and in some cases recover quicker.

              The only people interested in drugs testing should be the boxing authorities and not individual fighters calling out other fighters, that's just unsporting and ignorant... reminds me of a witch hunt. When it comes from the Mayweathers - a family of women beaters and drug felons then I find it even more disturbing that people buy into it. They have no moral integrity and should be the last people pointing fingers at someone else.

              /rant.
              You are subliminally just talkin about the Mayweathers. Take them out of the equation and tell me you can come to your senses. It is a factor or they wouldnt take them. Its the difference between a long fly out and a homerun. Its the difference between 1st and 10 and 4th and 1. So its no way it's not the difference between rockin a guy with a left and putting him to sleep. Thats just the sports part. Boxers are agressive by nature so add some extra testosteron to the adrenaline rush of a confrontation and you pretty much have a drunkin idiot in a bar with abnormal human strength. If you are using then you are the witch they should be lookin for. So whats immoral about clean athletes. Dont spite your common sense to run with senseless hate.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Code Red View Post
                Hey I wish urine could detect the latest and greatest PEDS, if blood test were uneccesary perfect. This is only bad news for Manny "what day is the test" Pacquiao. Thing is this only for HGH, what about EPO, testosterone, etc...
                IRRELEVANT as Floyd who is the ONLY one that needs this is on vacation for a year or two (Not thinking of boxing or fighting Pac for NOW)...

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Ray Dollars View Post
                  I could care less if they are all on steroids. Steroids don't make you more skilled or elusive or smarter, they just enable you to train harder. But you still have to do the work. They won't turn a fat boy like James Toney into a ripped beast like David Haye, they just enable an athlete to train longer and harder - and in some cases recover quicker.

                  The only people interested in drugs testing should be the boxing authorities and not individual fighters calling out other fighters, that's just unsporting and ignorant... reminds me of a witch hunt. When it comes from the Mayweathers - a family of women beaters and drug felons then I find it even more disturbing that people buy into it. They have no moral integrity and should be the last people pointing fingers at someone else.

                  /rant.
                  What the hell are you talking about?

                  You're post would make sense IF Manny or his mouthpieces would have flat out refused to undergo testing protocols under USADA when it was first proposed back in 2009.

                  They DID NOT REFUSE nor did they REJECT the idea of additional testing which includes blood drawing.

                  In fact, random blood and urine testing was already part of the contract. It was one of the first proposals written at the beginning of the contract.

                  All we got from Team Pacquiao was excuses and a run around.

                  So what are you trying to make people believe?

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                  • #19
                    wtf is going on here? why aint Imdazed here??? we need his expert opinions. :wank:

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by MindBat View Post
                      What the hell are you talking about?

                      You're post would make sense IF Manny or his mouthpieces would have flat out refused to undergo testing protocols under USADA when it was first proposed back in 2009.

                      They DID NOT REFUSE nor did they REJECT the idea of additional testing which includes blood drawing.

                      In fact, random blood and urine testing was already part of the contract. It was one of the first proposals written at the beginning of the contract.

                      All we got from Team Pacquiao was excuses and a run around.

                      So what are you trying to make people believe?
                      **Er. I didn't say they did??

                      My comment was - let the authorities deal with drug testing and let the fighters do the fighting. Fighters shouldn't be calling out other fighters as cheats.

                      Or perhaps you misunderstood my whole post. But that's okay.

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