Fight Fans Know the Heavyweights Suck....

[PRboxingfan]

it would have been sub-100,000 buys without Cotto on the card...

Exactly. HBO PPV numbers were elevated because of the Puerto Rican fanbase that Cotto carries with him.

Those numbers are World Wide, not just in the U.S. Europe's numbers SHOULD be included in that because they have the rights to the fight all over the world.

Here is how the heavyweights should do it:

Vitali fights Rock, Ruiz fights Toney, and Byrd fights Owen Beck. The winners of the last two fights would fight each other and Vitali/Rock winner would fight the winner of that one. This would give us a unified/undisputed champ (I'm taking Rahman).

[Nautilus]

Are you saying that there are fans of certain boxers who only follow that specific boxer?

I can't see a rabid Chris Byrd fan only buying a card if Ruiz is on it and vice versa.

If Vitali had another heavyweight on his card, would you say he was sharing the "Value" with them? Come on...

I am saying that the US PPV market value = revenue of

VK-Williams fight

equals US PPV market value=revenue of 3-fight combo of

Byrd/Mccline
Rahman/Mygan
Hugger/Mccline


That's the market economy, market value of a product = total revenue.

I am sure the market value is a lot larger for VK-Williams due to additional huge Euro sales.

[Nautilus]

Exactly. HBO PPV numbers were elevated because of the Puerto Rican fanbase that Cotto carries with him.

Can Puerto Ricans afford to pay for 50$ PPV (no offense there)?

[neils7147933]

I am saying that the US PPV market value = revenue of

VK-Williams fight

equals US PPV market value=revenue of 3-fight combo of

Byrd/Mccline
Rahman/Mygan
Hugger/Mccline


That's the market economy, market value of a product = total revenue.

I am sure the market value is a lot larger for VK-Williams due to additional huge Euro sales.

Oversimplifying misleads - if Vitali was on the last heavyweight card, the total buys wouldn't have been much different, because heavyweight boxing fans bought both. That's partly why they both sold the same amount. I can't see people saying "I'll pay for Ruiz and Byrd but not Vitali"

It's "time to buy the next week's card, because this one's a PPV"
A lot of people are like me and buy all the big cards just because it's the only one that weekend. I'll even buy a Jirov card if it's the only chance to see boxing that weekend...lol

[Nautilus]

Oversimplifying misleads - if Vitali was on the last heavyweight card, the total buys wouldn't have been much different, because heavyweight boxing fans bought both. That's partly why they both sold the same amount. I can't see people saying "I'll pay for Ruiz and Byrd but not Vitali"

It's "time to buy the next week's card, because this one's a PPV"
A lot of people are like me and buy all the big cards just because it's the only one that weekend. I'll even buy a Jirov card if it's the only chance to see boxing that weekend...lol

There is nothing oversiymplifying. What I said is a plain restatement of a simple fact that the PPV revenues of two cards are equal. That's how market valued them.


Look I bought both cards, but bought the Nov one only because it was a tripple header. I would not have bough it otherwise.

I think the sales for Byrd/McCline standalone card would be miserable.

The sales for Ruiz/Golota would be small (and none if it were not for Golota).

The sales for Rahman/WHo? would be who know what.

The only reasons it got sold is because it is a 3-fight combo.

[neils7147933]

Rahman and Holyfield were thrown onto the card, just like Carlos Hernandez and Navarro were thrown onto the Vit card.

Cotto was thrown onto the Klitschko card, probably to keep it from being too much of a stinker, but only after Vit's match was announced.

[Nautilus]

Rahman and Holyfield were thrown onto the card, just like Carlos Hernandez and Navarro were thrown onto the Vit card.

Cotto was thrown onto the Klitschko card, probably to keep it from being too much of a stinker, but only after Vit's match was announced.

You just plainly hate VK.

[Nautilus]

Rahman and Holyfield were thrown onto the card, just like Carlos Hernandez and Navarro were thrown onto the Vit card.

Cotto was thrown onto the Klitschko card, probably to keep it from being too much of a stinker, but only after Vit's match was announced.

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I even forgot that Evander was on that card too ... What an embarassment...

[neils7147933]

You just plainly hate VK.

I don't hate any fighter (well, maybe De La Hoya), but someone needs to offset the blind love on the boards for a guy that hasn't earned it yet

[Pno]

if the HW division is stinkin so much, why prolong the unification any longer? why have these other fighters involved in the mix? if Rahman beats one of the champs, fans may have the feeling that he doesn't deserve the title of THE HW champ, since he would have just gotten the belt.

All the HWs have defended their titles at least once right?
so they have proven they (at least somewhat I suppose considering the recent Nov. card) that they deserve those titles. Why go down from there? The HW division needs to go UP and that will only happen with a unification.

THEN let's have Rahman, Toney, and whoever thinks the unified champ isn't deserving get their chance in there.

I personally think that having one champ (and the rest of the division fighting their hearts out to get a shot at all those titles) is a bigger draw to the division than what is currently going on due to Don King keeping his fighters this way for max $ or promoters not agreeing to fights..