IF Haye Beat Wlad, and Vitali Beat Haye, Where Would You Rank Vitali All Time

[hweightblogger]

So the examples you brought up are still fighters that lost, please find me some of those chubby champions.

That they lost is no miracle because nearly everybody loses against ATGs. But I have watched hundreds of superheavyweight fights now and at superheavyweight being chubby IS AN ADVANTAGE.

I know that for a hater like you "being chubby is a proof of a bad opponent" because that's a hater's dear idea that he clings to, but I have watched too many superheavyweight fights to fall for such nonsense.

If the fighter is well conditioned and chubby (e.g. fat Arreola) he is definitely more dangerous than an athletic conditioned boxer (e.g. Herbie Hide) (unless the skill sets are too far apart). Fat Arreola has more chances against power punchers (like the Klitschkos) than athletic Arreola. Fat Arreola has a superhigh output and one of the best KOratios, and was barely shaken by Vitali, yet you are too blind to see the obvious. Vitali had less problems with superathletic Haye or Sosnowski than with chubby Kevin Johnson or chubby (even less skilled) Timo Hoffmann.

One of the best examples of how athleticism is far less worth than chubbyness is Ken Norton (who is the ideal that good-old-time nostalgists aspire to) who was viciously schooled by the first punchers he met: Shavers, Cooney, Foreman: KO1, KO1, KO2. Had he been chubby he would have survived much longer.

Athleticism at superheavyweight is a luxury you can only afford if your skill set is extremely high or you are tall or your opponent is a featherfist, other than that chubbies (always under the condition that they are conditioned) are the more dangerous and durable opponents.

[StarshipTrooper]

Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis

THE TRUTH

Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice then grew a vagina on his face.

Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of growing a vagina on his face.

vaginas grown on face

Vitali 1
Lewis 0

Lewis was exhausted from turning Vitali's face into a sex organ.

All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight because, hey, everyone loves puzzy on their faces.

Lewis promised Vitali another facial vagina.

Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson because he was embaressed by having a vagina on his face.

Lewis turned down 30 million dollars because he knew Vitali would retire on his stool like a coward like he did with Byrd.

Vitali dominated with vagisil and scared his face vagina into retirement.

Lewis is scared to death of getting a yeast infection from Vitali's face vagina.

Glad to see you telling like it is :allhail9:

[StarshipTrooper]

You have proven yourself to be the most ******ed poster i have ever met.

It's Franken****tard aka KNN's alt so what do you expect but grotesque ******ation :hahahaha9:

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[Dave Rado]

Chubby+conditioned (at superheavyweight) IS DEFINITELY dangerous. You have not watched many fights if you think otherwise.

Wow you're funny.

You'd better tell Wlad and Vitali to stop training so hard then. They're both easily the most athletic Super Heavyweights (240+) around at the moment, and possibly in the history of the sport.

[Dave Rado]

If Vitali destroys Solis... Adamek & Avenges Haye's win over Wlad... he's top 10 by default. If wlad GETS KNOCKED OUT by Haye & Vitali wipes the floor with him... he automatically moves ahead Of Wlad in the alltime rankings..

If Haye knocks out Wlad, Wlad won't be in the top 50 of the all time Heavyweight rankings. (Nor would Haye if he retires or loses straight after doing that).

[cklmaced]

Wow you're funny.

You'd better tell Wlad and Vitali to stop training so hard then. They're both easily the most athletic Super Heavyweights (240+) around at the moment, and possibly in the history of the sport.

LOL exactly the Klits and Haye are the most athletic heavyweights and have all the titles that's odd. Its a wonder Peter or Arreola don't have a 5 year reign on top by now.

[The_Demon]

Top 30 of all time,vitali has a terrible resume even compared too his brother

[hweightblogger]

Wow you're funny.

You'd better tell Wlad and Vitali to stop training so hard then.

Read my previous post: They have the luxury of being athletic because they are TALL.

They're both easily the most athletic Super Heavyweights (240+) around at the moment, and possibly in the history of the sport.

And yet it's the less athletic brother (Vitali) who has supposedly the better chin and stamina. Exactly my point.

Because both brothers are so highly skilled they rule the division, but just think about who would be champ if they weren't around:
Valuev (chubby)
Chambers (chubby)
Peter (chubby)
Solis (chubby)
or even Toney (chubby)

and the list goes on...

You have to get accustomed to the idea that the perfect look for superheavyweights is chubby, just like it is for Sumos or shot-putters, and I know very well that it goes against "body taste" or the "usual consensus", but chubbies (if conditioned) are generally the better superheavyweights (because of stamina and chin) and already expect the next generations of superheavyweights to be fat.

It was athletic Wlad who got floored against Peter, not chubby Toney.

[cklmaced]

Read my previous post: They have the luxary of being athletic because they are TALL.


And yet it's the less athletic brother (Vitali) who has supposedly the better chin and stamina. Exactly my point.

Because both brothers are so highly skilled they rule the division, but just think about who would be champ if they weren't around:
Valuev (chubby)
Chambers (chubby)
Peter (chubby)
Solis (chubby)
or even Toney (chubby)

and the list goes on...

You have to get accustomed to the idea that the perfect look for superheavyweights is chubby, just like it is for Sumos or shot-putters, and I know very well that it goes against "body taste" or the "usual consensus", but chubbies (if conditioned) are generally the better superheavyweights (because of stamina and chin) and already expect the next generations of superheavyweights to be fat.

It was athletic Wlad who got floored against Peter, not chubby Toney.

So all those chubby you listed aren't world champs because athletic HWs like Haye and the Klits beat them. You have nothing to go on, the fact that you think Valeuv, Peter and Solis have good stamina shows how wrong you are.

[Joeyzagz]

If Rahman beats Lennox and Wlad beats Rahman where would you rank Wlad?

Chronology was shot all to hell in your post. Heres what happened:

-Rahman beat Lennox,
-Lennox destroys Rahman in the same calendar year KO4

*5 years pass*

-Maskaev emasculates Rahman, ends Rock's career as an elite fighter

*2 more years pass*

-Wlad fights a shot to hell Rahman with Lennox watching at ringside. Wlad takes 3 more rounds to get the job done against a much lesser fighter.