Would the klitchko's last in the 70s?

[cklmaced]

Name a good fighter a Klit bro beat and I could find 5 better on any other ATG resume.

Bumping till I get an answer.

[Spray_resistant]

You might do, but most Tunney, Steelhammer, Wladischamp etc call him a bum glass chinned fraud who ducked the best CW.

Nah he was the main guy at 200, IDK what some think but who else was really there? Chinny Cunningham?

[hweightblogger]

Klitards still ducking this question I notice.

Nobody's ducking a question.

And especially not a question from you.

It just happens that your question is completely offtopic. This is not a resume comparison thread. The topic is "Would the Klitschkos last = be competitive in the 1970s".

[-The Game-]

Bumping till I get an answer.

Chris Byrd...I mean he has the same style as Ali I guess......

Oh wait.......

[RubenSonny]

What do you want him to do make opponents you like out of thin air? invent a time machine? These two are dominating their era and whether anyone likes it or not when they retire they will both most likely be spoken of in FF matches and put on the same level against other ATG HWs for as long as boxing is around.

Wlad clearly fights the better comp and I give him credit for his wins (Chambers, Chagaev, Byrd), Vitali on the other hand fights hasn't beat anyone of note, has never been champions, and is definately not an ATG. I'm not necessarily blaming them if their opponents are poor but its what you did that counts in legacy, not what could've been.

[cklmaced]

Nobody's ducking a question.

And especially not a question from you.

It just happens that your question is completely offtopic. This is not a resume comparison thread. The topic is "Would the Klitschkos last = be competitive in the 1970s".

How is it offtopic you compare fighters by who they have beaten or can you not come up with a stat to answer the question.

[Spray_resistant]

Wlad clearly fights the better comp and I give him credit for his wins (Chambers, Chagaev, Byrd), Vitali on the other hand fights hasn't beat anyone of note, has never been champions, and is definately not an ATG. I'm not necessarily blaming them if their opponents are poor but its what you did that counts in legacy, not what could've been.

I guess we have to wait until they retire and see how history judges them in the long run won't we.

[Steak]

Oh, so The Clay's performances against guys like Klitschkos don't matter. Good to know.


OF COURSE it's ability > size IN THE SAME WEIGHT RANGE. You know very well that a top featherweight would have only little chances against a BUMMY HEAVYWEIGHT.

It's WEIGHT divisions for a reason.


So far you have not proven anything. And especially not with your Julius Long example.


Huh? Larry Holmes (80ies, not part of the "golden age") and Foreman are ATGs. What is there to admit?

They would still lose against the Klitschkos but they are far more competitive than the rest of the 60s and 70s.


You are correct. Norton would not.


You are correct. Despite of the fact that Ali KOed Foreman, Foreman would do better in the current era. But as I mentioned above that KO atypical, inconclusive and overshadowed, but that's a topic of its own.


Evan Fields is a featherfist. That Fields cannot KO somebody is the rule not the exception.


No, I didn't. I don't care about punches that LOOK hard. Fields' record tells the real story.


I disagree. I watched too many of these fights to be impressed. Only Foreman would be competitive. The Clay not, Norton not, Frazier DEFINITELY not.

LARRY HOLMES WON THE TITLE AGAINST KEN NORTON IN THE 70s. HE WAS A 70s HEAVYWEIGHT.
and most certainly Norton was a 70s HW. and slightly past prime him gave Holmes absolute hell. so looks like 70s werent so ****ing bad, were they?

so Holmes would do well in todays era...but someone who took him life and death wouldnt. and Foreman would, but guys that beat him wouldnt. you are a moron.

you keep saying that being bigger=you have a better chin. THIS. IS. WRONG. There are so many examples is staggering. Wladimir obviously doesnt have as good a chin as Holyfield, and Holyfield started his career at 175lb and even at his largest was 20 something lbs less than him.
wanna call Wladimir a bum?
Valuev doesnt hit harder than Tyson, despite his 100lb weight advantage. whoops, hes top ten in todays divison, cant call him a bum either.

and lol at you saying that you didnt see the punches that Holyfield hit Foreman with, but you know theyre weak. Holyfield knocked down and hurt Mercer, something Lewis couldnt do.
LEWIS=FEATHERFISTED.

[cupocity303]

The reason is that Ali had great fighters to fight in his era....that boxing writers and journalist claim them to be great.....

If you look at todays heavyweights.....what boxing writer/journalist says that any top ranked heavyweight outside the Klits is a very good fighter

just look at haye...he aintt done sh.it in the division..yet everyone is talking about him....in most other eras...Haye would just be a normal guy moving into the heavyweight division

Who is qualified to say that they're great, and one of Wlad's opponent isn't?


And I'm not even talking about Ali's main wins (Liston, Frazier, Foreman), but his average title defense.

On paper, nobody is arguing that Ali's resume is better but Ability wise? Liston may have been a established champ, but ability wise he is overrated for the mere fact that he is a 60's fighter. You guys can easily hype that train while at the same time tell me that WLad beating Chris Byrd for the IBF belt is a **** win.

But I'm not buying it because I don't fall for that historically biased nonsense. Today's fighters have better training equipment, better Diet regimen, better methods to recover from a hard workout. Past fighters helped build the foundation like the past basketball players did, and they get huge credit for that. But nobody can tell me that past players are better than the Dwayne Wades, LeBron James's, Kobe Bryants of today's basketball, no matter how many Championship's the past players won.

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