Morales a TOP P4P FIGHTER?

[Tha_Greatest]

Yes, I think they would, only because of fame.
IMO he beats either one easly.

I dont understand your post,

[Tha_Greatest]

i doubt he beats Erik, Mab, Jmm, or manny decisvly
from what im hearen
sounds like he ran his way to a deicsion
hit and run
but its still eriks fault for not chasen him
liek i said
still havent seen the fight
once i see it
ill elaborate more

Raheem did run, but it wasnt running like Spinks Vs Mayorga, Ill give Morales this, he did knock down Raheem(not counted) but he shouldve chased Raheem at least

[Zab Super Judah]

I like Morales a lot, his style, and all that but tonights fight has me wondering.....like a lot of you guys posted on other threads, does a p4p fighter really lose 10-2 on the scorecards? Sure, any fighter has their bad day, but i mean he was DOMINATED. And remeber, Raheem was the guy that struggled with ROCKY JUAREZ...im sure Raheem changed a lot from that fight but he can only change so much. As i was watching the fight, Morales didn't try to change and adjust to fight Raheem and seemed discouraged. We'll see where he goes from here.

styles make fights..This guy has basically beat everyone else in front of him so how could he not be in the p4p list. Can you feel confident naming 10 fighters better than this guy? raheem never struggled wiht juarez. He beat juarez but was robbed

[Bozo_no no]

He beat juarez but was robbed

I disagree.

Juarez was dominating Raheem early in the fight and then shut it down with the win in the bag. Raheem was penalized 3 points for holding, which he did do but it wasn't severe. However, saying that Raheem should have got the win is not right at all. Raheem was getting his ass handed to him in the early rounds and was dropped by Juarez. After that, Juarez had a big lead and Raheem kept getting penalized. So Juarez played it safe and went on to an easy decision.

With the points taken away, no way Raheem wins, and even without them I thought Juarez won enough rounds early to take it 7-5.

[Tha_Greatest]

You're forgetting that Morales had difficulty making 135.

He's admitted he's having problems with the weight, said he'd only fight at 130 if it was a Pacquiao rematch, othewise intends to fight at 135 from now on.

I would like to see him fight maybe Cassamayor or Kid Diamond at 135. Not to mention Juan or Julio Diaz.

Me being a Morales fan, I want him still to move up cause hes beaten all comers at 130, I want to see the fights you mentioned as well vs Morales, I just dont want Morales ducking guys like Judah and Floyd, if Erik loses, he loses, hes already a for sure hall of famer

[Tha_Greatest]

I disagree.

Juarez was dominating Raheem early in the fight and then shut it down with the win in the bag. Raheem was penalized 3 points for holding, which he did do but it wasn't severe. However, saying that Raheem should have got the win is not right at all. Raheem was getting his ass handed to him in the early rounds and was dropped by Juarez. After that, Juarez had a big lead and Raheem kept getting penalized. So Juarez played it safe and went on to an easy decision.

With the points taken away, no way Raheem wins, and even without them I thought Juarez won enough rounds early to take it 7-5.

Everything you said is correct

[Bozo_no no]

Me being a Morales fan, I want him still to move up cause hes beaten all comers at 130, I want to see the fights you mentioned as well vs Morales, I just dont want Morales ducking guys like Judah and Floyd, if Erik loses, he loses, hes already a for sure hall of famer

Ducking Judah?

Judah's the undisputed welter weight champion.

NO WAY does Morales get anywhere near 147, that's crazy.

He's pushing his luck at 135 with talk of Castillo and Corrales.

Mayweather and Judah shouldn't be on his raydar at all. That's too much to ask.

I'd give him all the props in the world for fighting Castillo or Corrales. That's balls of steel.

[mezzy08]

I like Morales a lot, his style, and all that but tonights fight has me wondering.....like a lot of you guys posted on other threads, does a p4p fighter really lose 10-2 on the scorecards? Sure, any fighter has their bad day, but i mean he was DOMINATED. And remeber, Raheem was the guy that struggled with ROCKY JUAREZ...im sure Raheem changed a lot from that fight but he can only change so much. As i was watching the fight, Morales didn't try to change and adjust to fight Raheem and seemed discouraged. We'll see where he goes from here.

When the rematch materialized between EM & PAC, its Pacman by KO.. Morales was so upseted a much by Raheem!!!tsk!tsk!tsk.. He will be dropping his P4P ratings!!!! its time to hang his gloves than to suffer another lose.

[mezzy08]

Me being a Morales fan, I want him still to move up cause hes beaten all comers at 130, I want to see the fights you mentioned as well vs Morales, I just dont want Morales ducking guys like Judah and Floyd, if Erik loses, he loses, hes already a for sure hall of famer

Naaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! moving in wieght??? (and face the winner of Castillo & Corales..) Bwa ha ha ha ha..... EM will attempting suiside!

[amaru]

morales is still a P4P fighter in my opinion, i aint seen the fight but i heard he got completly dominated (which is something not even barrera has done to him) the weight could have been a problem but morales has the body to be a lightweight so i wouldnt focus too much on it, even morales gave raheem credit by saying it was more the way raheem fought, it wasnt the weight he said. morales has said he will definatly fight raheem again but hes supposed to be facing pacquaio in a few months.

even if morales does move down in weight he can still fight some good fights, he has the pacquaio fight, hopefully JMM comes up now that hes been stripped of his belts, he could even fight jesus chavez again at lightweight because some people think erik got lucky fighting him with one hand. theres still plenty of fights out there for morales, hes resume speaks for itself. i wouldnt take him off the P4P ranking list at all, although in his last 3 fights hes lost 2 and won 1. however if he fights raheem again im sure he will put on a better performance. but if he loses, thats 4 fights hes lost and 3 of them would have come in just over a year, has all the wars that morales has had finally caught up with him??