Who is the Most Versatile Trainer

[KingOfBox]

I was trying to think of all the good fighters right now and who their trainers were. I noticed many differences in styles and that some trainer's fighters fight alike. I also noticed some trainers more closely resemble conditioning coaches than actual trainers. Also, some fighters don't appear to need coaching because they are very good at preparing themselves and can think their way through a fight at this point in their careers and have their trainers in the corner for a second opinion; ex: Mayweather, Pacman, Ward, Bradley, Juan Manuel Marquez, Hopkins.

So in the end... If you knew a talented fighter who asked you for advice on who to hire as a trainer, who would you mention first?

Trainers I like in order:

Naazim Richardson (honest, wise, analytical, timing, measuring, adjustments)

Emanuel Steward (offensive, fundamental, jab, gameplan, adjustments)

Robert Garcia (different styles, motivator, combinations, bodywork aggressive)

Freddie Roach (speed, best offense, confident, footwork, combinations, jab)

Mayweather Sr (best defense, fundamental, jab, footwork, timing, head movement)

Gabriel Sarmiento (detailed, defense, timing, punch accuracy)

Brendon Smith (articulate, aware, motivator, aggressive, combinations)

Roger Mayweather (fundamental, defense, footwork, speed, tactful)

Trainers I don't like:
Yoel Judah
Buddy McGirt
Barry Hunter
there are too many more to list...

What do you guys think??

[MXboxingfan]

I was trying to think of all the good fighters right now and who their trainers were. I noticed many differences in styles and that some trainer's fighters fight alike. I also noticed some trainers more closely resemble conditioning coaches than actual trainers. Also, some fighters don't appear to need coaching because they are very good at preparing themselves and can think their way through a fight at this point in their careers and have their trainers in the corner for a second opinion; ex: Mayweather, Pacman, Ward, Bradley, Juan Manuel Marquez, Hopkins.

So in the end... If you knew a talented fighter who asked you for advice on who to hire as a trainer, who would you mention first?

Trainers I like in order:

Naazim Richardson (honest, wise, analytical, timing, measuring, adjustments)

Emanuel Steward (offensive, fundamental, jab, gameplan, adjustments)

Robert Garcia (different styles, motivator, combinations, bodywork aggressive)

Freddie Roach (speed, best offense, confident, footwork, combinations, jab)

Mayweather Sr (best defense, fundamental, jab, footwork, timing, head movement)

Gabriel Sarmiento (detailed, defense, timing, punch accuracy)

Brendon Smith (articulate, aware, motivator, aggressive, combinations)

Roger Mayweather (fundamental, defense, footwork, speed, tactful)

Trainers I don't like:
Yoel Judah
Buddy McGirt
Barry Hunter
there are too many more to list...

What do you guys think??

What do you think of Timothy Bradley's trainer, Joel Díaz?

[KingOfBox]

Joel Diaz is a good trainer too... I meant to include him.. I can't remember how many times Tim has been considered by many as the underdog. Many good names too... Witter, Holt, Peterson, Alexander, Campbell... Diaz has always helped carve his way to victory. Good call..

[BigStereotype]

I was trying to think of all the good fighters right now and who their trainers were. I noticed many differences in styles and that some trainer's fighters fight alike. I also noticed some trainers more closely resemble conditioning coaches than actual trainers. Also, some fighters don't appear to need coaching because they are very good at preparing themselves and can think their way through a fight at this point in their careers and have their trainers in the corner for a second opinion; ex: Mayweather, Pacman, Ward, Bradley, Juan Manuel Marquez, Hopkins.

So in the end... If you knew a talented fighter who asked you for advice on who to hire as a trainer, who would you mention first?

Trainers I like in order:

Naazim Richardson (honest, wise, analytical, timing, measuring, adjustments)

Emanuel Steward (offensive, fundamental, jab, gameplan, adjustments)

Robert Garcia (different styles, motivator, combinations, bodywork aggressive)

Freddie Roach (speed, best offense, confident, footwork, combinations, jab)

Mayweather Sr (best defense, fundamental, jab, footwork, timing, head movement)

Gabriel Sarmiento (detailed, defense, timing, punch accuracy)

Brendon Smith (articulate, aware, motivator, aggressive, combinations)

Roger Mayweather (fundamental, defense, footwork, speed, tactful)

Trainers I don't like:
Yoel Judah
Buddy McGirt
Barry Hunter
there are too many more to list...

What do you guys think??

Cool thread. I lol'd at Roger being "tactful" though. "Double that jab an we gon have this mo'****a in the later rounds. Mo'****a can't deal with yo skills Floyd, we got him."

Anyway, I think Steward is the most versatile. You look at the guys that he has trained in Lennox Lewis, Tommy Hearns, Prince Naseem, Miguel Cotto etc. etc. they all have different styles and most of them did their best work under Manny. Hamed and Cotto didn't but you could still see the improvement in Cotto's fundamentals during the Foreman fight. His footwork was superb. Steward's emphasis on getting the basics right and then tailoring his gameplan to the fighter's strengths really works well...unless he's facing Barrera, then it's a wipeout. **** you Naz.

And do you really not like Buddy McGirt? He did miracles for Arturo Gatti in teaching him how to box.

[KingOfBox]

I think Gatti would've been better wit someone else. I look at Buddy when he trained Malignaggi and I just don't see how you can make such an exceptionally sharp boxer like Paulie look so horrible.. Of course Paulie probably had an off night as well. Point is Buddy didn't seem to have a clue in his corner in that Hatton fight. In retrospect Ricky looked great with just 7 weeks with Big Floyd for atleast that one fight.

[Southpawology]

jack loew is pretty versatile....he can get his fighters to execute the jab, double the ****ing jab, and sometimes even triple the ****ing jab with a right hand behind it

[Jim Jeffries]

Cool thread. I lol'd at Roger being "tactful" though. "Double that jab an we gon have this mo'****a in the later rounds. Mo'****a can't deal with yo skills Floyd, we got him."

Anyway, I think Steward is the most versatile. You look at the guys that he has trained in Lennox Lewis, Tommy Hearns, Prince Naseem, Miguel Cotto etc. etc. they all have different styles and most of them did their best work under Manny. Hamed and Cotto didn't but you could still see the improvement in Cotto's fundamentals during the Foreman fight. His footwork was superb. Steward's emphasis on getting the basics right and then tailoring his gameplan to the fighter's strengths really works well...unless he's facing Barrera, then it's a wipeout. **** you Naz.

And do you really not like Buddy McGirt? He did miracles for Arturo Gatti in teaching him how to box.

The thing with Steward is that most of his fighters tend to suck on the inside. Good jabs, great at controlling distance, but always seem to go for the clinch when things get close.

[TuRoK'em]

what about nacho

[koolttt]

what about nacho

Beat me to it. Nacho Beristain is a solid trianer.

[SplitSecond]

mayweather sr is not a versatile trainer, he tries to teach everyone to fight like his son, he potentially ruins fighters, if he was versatile he'd see what each fighter was good at and how he could capatilize on those talents