When are U people going to realize that Vitali Klitschko.....

[Vadrigar.]

except maybe the man in your avatar right? Vitali's never been on his back dude, and hes never trailed on a score card, 2 losses due to injury.

2 losses due to quitting like b*tch and being savaged by a fat old champion at the tail end of his career.

[P4P Opinion]

Lewis was 37 when he got his ass whooped by Vitali.

37 isn't really that old for a heavyweight.

Vitali turns 40 in July and Wlad turns 35 in March.

Lewis was coming off the KO win over Tyson. In the Lewis-Tyson post fight interview Lewis stated "I'm like fine wine, I get better with age"

In an interview right before the Vitali fight, Lewis said "I'm at the peak of my powers, I will keep fighting for many more years"

Vitali dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement. That's a FACT.

No, it isn't. A fact is something that can be proved demonstrably, what you have here is half-arsed conjecture. How ****ing simple are you? You repeat this post and your other one time and time again like you're saying something brilliant, when in reality you just make yourself look all the more like a 10 year old coming to terms with logical thought and failing.

Vitali Klitschko is a great heavyweight - one of the top 25 of all-time in my humble opinion, but he isn't close to being unbeatable and you cannot find a serious argument from his meagre achievements to rank him anywhere near the top ten.

Let's look at his time at World-class level:

Herbie Hide - Win via KO2 - gains WBO title
Ed Mahone - Win via TKO3 - retains WBO title
Obed Sullivan - Win via RTD9 - retains WBO title
Chris Byrd - Loss via RTD9 - loses WBO title
Timo Hoffman - Win via UD -
Orlin Norris - Win via KO1 -
Ross Puritty - Win via TKO11 -
Vaughn Bean - Win via TKO11 -
Larry Donald - Win via TKO10 -
Lennox Lewis - Loss via TKO6 - fails to gain WBC and Lineal Title
Kirk Johnson - Win via TKO2 -
Corrie Sanders - Win via TKO8 - gains vacant WBC and Lineal Title
Danny Williams - Win via TKO8 - retains WBC and Lineal Title

- period of retirement -

Samuel Peter - Win via RTD8 - gains WBC title
Juan Carlos Gomez - Win via TKO9 - retains WBC title
Chris Arreola - Win via RTD10 - retains WBC title
Kevin Johnson - Win via UD - retains WBC title
Albert Sosnowski - Win via KO10 - retains WBC title
Shannon Briggs - Win via UD - retains WBC title

The only elite-level fighter on that list is Lennox Lewis and that was a loss for Vitali. I give him credit for picking up the lineal title (defined as the Ring Title due to multiple alphabet belts), but his only real achievement is in dominating B-level fighters the way any great champion should. It's a shame that Vitali will likely never get the chance to fight another great fighter, but that doesn't mean we should give him extra credit.

[hweightblogger]

Vitali beats any HW from any era.

- There is no blueprint to beat him.

- He is unbeatable.

I disagree, you only need to be flexible like Byrd, have a chin like Ross Puritty, have a reach like Lennox and have a punch like (hmm, like whom actually?)... and Vitali is finished by TKO1.

Go, mystery man, go!

[hweightblogger]

2 losses due to quitting like b*tch and being savaged by a fat old champion at the tail end of his career.

Hey, DuuuuPwaters, it's actually the greatest Clay who quit like a b-i-t-c-h against featherfisty Larry Holmes on his stool.

And it was actually Larry Holmes and Ali who were fatter than Lennox.

[Vadrigar.]

It's actually the greatest Clay quit like a b-i-t-c-h against a featherfist Larry Holmes.

Uh no Ali didn't.

BTW who has Vitali beat that is even remotely close to a fighter of Holmes' greatness?

I guess he can eat up more bums for the rest of his paper career.

[hweightblogger]

Uh no he didn't.

Oh, yes, Clay did. In fact Clay was losing every round thus he quit like a d-o-u-b-l-e b-i-t-c-h.

Get over it, duuuuPWAters.

BTW who has Vitali beat that is even remotely close to a Holmes?

Whom has Clay beaten who is remotely close to a Holmes (= who has won 20 world titles)? The next best world champ is Floyd Patterson (188 lbs) who won 8 world championships, of which not a single one was against a 200+ heavyweight).

[DrewWoodside]

lol steelhammer .....

Umm.. Yeah that was a little creepy.

[Vadrigar.]

Oh, yes, Clay did. In fact Clay was losing every round thus he quit like a d-o-u-b-l-e b-i-t-c-h

Wrong again. But you can just keep repeating BS all you like. It doesn't change the facts, it's still BS.

Still haven't answered my question? Hmm.....

[jimmy1569]

No, it isn't. A fact is something that can be proved demonstrably, what you have here is half-arsed conjecture. How ****ing simple are you? You repeat this post and your other one time and time again like you're saying something brilliant, when in reality you just make yourself look all the more like a 10 year old coming to terms with logical thought and failing.

Vitali Klitschko is a great heavyweight - one of the top 25 of all-time in my humble opinion, but he isn't close to being unbeatable and you cannot find a serious argument from his meagre achievements to rank him anywhere near the top ten.

Let's look at his time at World-class level:

Herbie Hide - Win via KO2 - gains WBO title
Ed Mahone - Win via TKO3 - retains WBO title
Obed Sullivan - Win via RTD9 - retains WBO title
Chris Byrd - Loss via RTD9 - loses WBO title
Timo Hoffman - Win via UD -
Orlin Norris - Win via KO1 -
Ross Puritty - Win via TKO11 -
Vaughn Bean - Win via TKO11 -
Larry Donald - Win via TKO10 -
Lennox Lewis - Loss via TKO6 - fails to gain WBC and Lineal Title
Kirk Johnson - Win via TKO2 -
Corrie Sanders - Win via TKO8 - gains vacant WBC and Lineal Title
Danny Williams - Win via TKO8 - retains WBC and Lineal Title

- period of retirement -

Samuel Peter - Win via RTD8 - gains WBC title
Juan Carlos Gomez - Win via TKO9 - retains WBC title
Chris Arreola - Win via RTD10 - retains WBC title
Kevin Johnson - Win via UD - retains WBC title
Albert Sosnowski - Win via KO10 - retains WBC title
Shannon Briggs - Win via UD - retains WBC title

The only elite-level fighter on that list is Lennox Lewis and that was a loss for Vitali. I give him credit for picking up the lineal title (defined as the Ring Title due to multiple alphabet belts), but his only real achievement is in dominating B-level fighters the way any great champion should. It's a shame that Vitali will likely never get the chance to fight another great fighter, but that doesn't mean we should give him extra credit.

All these fighters didn't look so great against Vitali..did they.. It's your opinion that they're all journeymen.. Some of them have held world titles before & there's a handful of them where he was the first to get the stoppage against them where no one else could. Most of these fighters on his so called **** resume have never been embarassed in said fashion before or after they fought him..... that's how how you gauge competition & NOT how you guys do it by merely looking at names & forming opinions out of your A$$ on fighters. Wlt Chamberlain in basketball had the same complex & completely gets credit for DOMINATING inferior opposition when he shouldn't have because of his size advantage & huge disparity.

This is NOT the case with Vitali as HE IS FIGHTING guys that are the biggest the heavyweights have evere seen (no fat jokes here) Bring on all the so-called greats you state he hasn't fought..he'd have them all for kunch.. I FULLY believe this & when he annihilates Solis..... everyone will say it was because Of Solis' weight completely disregarding his unprecedented & much talked about boxing skills the likes that we've rarely seen coming out of the amateurs. You haters are the ones who are being ri****ulous in your asssssessments of the great Vitali Klitschko because you can't admit it to yourself that a 6ft 7 freak of nature has the best set of boxing skills we've ever seen from the heavyweight division.. You all make me laugh because I KNOW THE REAL TRUTH here!

[jimmy1569]

Hey, DuuuuPwaters, it's actually the greatest Clay who quit like a b-i-t-c-h against featherfisty Larry Holmes on his stool.

And it was actually Larry Holmes and Ali who were fatter than Lennox.

You know what..i'll take that one step further.. Mike Tyson quit on his stool & to a lessser degree so did Evander Holyfield last month.. Roberto Duran quit because he was getting schooled yet Vitali GETS THE MOST SHYTE FOR QUITTING ON HIZ..having a legitimate injury that NEEDED an operation after the fight.. COMPLETELY SECURE IN the fact that he was well ahead of Byrd for the entire fight (big difference here) THAN PRACTICALLY 90 % OF ALL DOCUMENTED quit jobs YET he still gets flak about that. HE relinquished a belt that he defended 2 or 3 times because the pain was unbearable. This man has alot of pride & would fight to the death if he had to as witnessed in the Lennox fight. Alot of you have the IQ of a feather-fisted Byrd punch. Stop with the BS THAT HE COULD'VE FOUGHT with one arm for 3 rds.. If i'm beating on my stepson & get severely injured & throw my shoulder.. I HAVE nothing to prove to no one by continuing for another 3 rds while my shoulder is in pain... i've ALREADY made my point just like Vitali had done with Byrd for 9 RDS & to compare other fighters in juries with the one Vitali & have that validate Vitali's THREShold for pain is the most idiotic thing you can ever do as all doctors would tell you & laugh at you at the same time for insinuating that all injuries are one & the same. RANT THE F over!!!!!!!!!!!