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  • puga
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    #21
    Originally posted by paulf
    Worse things have happened.

    The winner is a paper champ, but so was the previous holder.

    Martinez is the real champ.
    martinez at 154 was a paper champ as well...he was the interim champ bumped up to being the real champ without fighting for it!...

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    • jrosales13
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      #22
      Originally posted by paulf
      Worse things have happened.

      The winner is a paper champ, but so was the previous holder.

      Martinez is the real champ.
      Real champ as a MW or real WBC champ?

      Because, if it is the former. No he's not the real MW champ. He's a paper champ just like Cotto, K9, and Dzinziruk.

      If it's the latter fine OK whatever. But, he hasn't campaigned in that weight-class for over a year now. And, it's about to fight for the 4th time in a row at MW. I don't understand how he can still be considered a champ if he doesn't fight at that weight-class but whatever.

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      • Boxeo_Boricua
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        #23
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        It doesn't matter, I'm OK with it. It's whatever. i have not been critical with Alvarez choice of opponents or anything about him really. Because, I still consider him a prospect. I don't see him as a contender. I see him a prospect. So I am rarely critical.

        However, once he wins that title. That is going to change. IMO he won't be able to fight the Carlos Baldomir or Matthew Hatton's anymore. He would have to step up the level of competition and fight true contenders or other title holders. If not he will deserve every criticism he gets. The whole he's only 20yr old bullshit will be out the window. Because, he will be a title holder now. I don't care if he's ready for a Cotto or not. Once he wins that title I expect him to fight high caliber fighters.
        Wilfredo Benitez was a Champion at 17 years old and I never heard:"he's only 17" Canelo needs to step it up and so does JCC jr! I am getting tired of these two already! How do you get a title shot like that? Also, why against M. Hatton?

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        • goblin213
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          #24
          If that ginger is too young, or if you guys think he is too green, then he shouldn't be fighting for the belt then.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Boxeo_Boricua
            Wilfredo Benitez was a Champion at 17 years old and I never heard:"he's only 17" Canelo needs to step it up and so does JCC jr! I am getting tired of these two already! How do you get a title shot like that? Also, why against M. Hatton?

            Yeah my pet peeve is definitely when they are champs then someone brings in the age excuse.

            You wanna be champ, pay the price and prove it against the best.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Boxeo_Boricua
              Wilfredo Benitez was a Champion at 17 years old and I never heard:"he's only 17" Canelo needs to step it up and so does JCC jr! I am getting tired of these two already! How do you get a title shot like that? Also, why against M. Hatton?
              You know what? I honest I consider Alvarez a prospect right now. I'm not really critical with him or JCC jr. So I don't car if they step it up or not. Because, they're not title holders. Never won a title. I don't consider them true contenders either. So whether they step it up or not. Doesn't bother me.

              However, once Alvarez wins a title. Then is when I will be critical. Then I will say you need to step it up. For example I will give you Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. All I hear is that he started boxing late, he doesn't have an amateur background, and blah blah blah. Because, he's a title holder and needs to step the fuck up. Fighting the likes of Hernandez and Arce is BS TBH. He needs to step it up because, he's a title holder. And, ever since winning that title he has fought very soft comp. Now that deserves criticism.

              Canelo and JCC Jr winning a title then they will be held to the same standards of the likes of WV2, Berto, and Haye, etc etc...Once you win a title you need to step up and face real comp.

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              • Steak
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                #27
                Originally posted by Boxeo_Boricua
                Wilfredo Benitez was a Champion at 17 years old and I never heard:"he's only 17" Canelo needs to step it up and so does JCC jr! I am getting tired of these two already! How do you get a title shot like that? Also, why against M. Hatton?
                you do realise that is extremely rare, dont you?
                only Cuevas and Benitez in the 100+ years of boxing became champs before 20, as far as I know.

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