in a span of 4 years he beats two good fighters and he's number 2? i think they are putting him in there too soon,way too soon,yeah he has skills and power,he's a good boxer but if you have those skills and don't use that against good fighters whats the point? he's only done it twice in four years,some might not be so fast or have much skills but they beat top fighters,thats my point,he can have all the abilities but if he's not fighting top guys there is no way he should be #2,yeah i think his win over montiel was great,but not to put him at number 2 above someone like martinez who has fought tougher guys than donaire and is just as good a boxer...i even think it was wrong that they had donaire above montiel before they fought,montiel was a unified champ,had gone to japan to beat a good fighter,3 division champ and donaire was above that?...i think they just hype certain fighters too much and after one good win all of a sudden they are pound for pound fighters,if he beats another good fighter i would put him in the ranking,but not #2,espcecially if martinez beats dzinziruk
Floyd is #1 unless he doesn't fight this year or retires. Martinez is #2 after beating 2 highly touted champions not many would fight not to mention the fact that Manny wants absolutely no part of him. Manny comes in 3rd even though he's the product of great match making and PEDs then Marquez is #4. Truth is Manny and Marquez should be tied at 3 or slight edge to Marquez at 3 over Manny for taking fights Manny would never take and the fact that Manny has been ducking him since their last fight. Don't know why people are so quick to put Donaire at the top. I would have to see more from him before I do. This fight was no where near as impressive as the way Martinez crushed the very highly respected Williams.
Your perspective is Amazing , mang !!
Floyd Joy Jr was GROOMED from the get go . He was put in there with people he would never lose against.
Then came the first Castillo fight. Because Money rules the game and I am not talking about "MONEY MAYWEATHER, haha,,,they gave that fight Floyd Joy Jr. FJR was thoroughly whupped and Castillo was thoroughly ROBBED. F Joy jr. came back to win and win and win. THEN :
the win loss record became a stand out , Then for the past 6 years now he has protected that win loss record. No longer does he have his GROOMER, Mr. Bob ARUM,,the specialist at grooming. So F joys history now reads ,,,,,cautious,,,,retirement,,,,waiting til the dust settles and walk out claiming the KING of the nice HILL,,,,,without a fight.
Right now Mr. Bob Arum is grooming his fighters. He has put Pac in there with all the TOP Elite that F Joy has decided not to fight due to the POSSIBILITY of a loss and ruin his perfect record but not ole Pac, he is groomed and while being groomed he , Pac, is taking on all comers,,,I should say he TOOK ON , past tense ALL TOP ELITE COMERS.
Pac was getting there when Margo demolished Cotto but he still got there and fought a great Cotto, when his body said to fight 135's or at most 140's but Pac is special so he fights the very best there.
Bottom line , all are groomed to a point. In Pacs beginning he was GROOMED AGAINST , as a young ragged poor little feller, he was done everyway but something he had from the beginning that Mayweather in the End has shown he lacks in is BALLS !!!!!!!!!!!
and the beat goes on. You seriously need to read the history and look at the present and you get a decent picture of the Future.
Floyd Joy Jr was GROOMED from the get go . He was put in there with people he would never lose against.
Then came the first Castillo fight. Because Money rules the game and I am not talking about "MONEY MAYWEATHER, haha,,,they gave that fight Floyd Joy Jr. FJR was thoroughly whupped and Castillo was thoroughly ROBBED. F Joy jr. came back to win and win and win. THEN :
the win loss record became a stand out , Then for the past 6 years now he has protected that win loss record. No longer does he have his GROOMER, Mr. Bob ARUM,,the specialist at grooming. So F joys history now reads ,,,,,cautious,,,,retirement,,,,waiting til the dust settles and walk out claiming the KING of the nice HILL,,,,,without a fight.
Right now Mr. Bob Arum is grooming his fighters. He has put Pac in there with all the TOP Elite that F Joy has decided not to fight due to the POSSIBILITY of a loss and ruin his perfect record but not ole Pac, he is groomed and while being groomed he , Pac, is taking on all comers,,,I should say he TOOK ON , past tense ALL TOP ELITE COMERS.
Pac was getting there when Margo demolished Cotto but he still got there and fought a great Cotto, when his body said to fight 135's or at most 140's but Pac is special so he fights the very best there.
Bottom line , all are groomed to a point. In Pacs beginning he was GROOMED AGAINST , as a young ragged poor little feller, he was done everyway but something he had from the beginning that Mayweather in the End has shown he lacks in is BALLS !!!!!!!!!!!
and the beat goes on. You seriously need to read the history and look at the present and you get a decent picture of the Future.
I think some of you guys lives revolve around Mayweather and Pacquiao. Which is pretty sad actually.
I agree with Roy 100% but you can't forget about Juanma and Gamboa two super talented fighters that belong in the discussion for the top 5 P4P best fighters in boxing
I agree with Roy 100% but you can't forget about Juanma and Gamboa two super talented fighters that belong in the discussion for the top 5 P4P best fighters in boxing
Very true about Juanma and Gamboa but I think the winner of a fight between the 2 would be ranked above Donaire.
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