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  • Pullcounter
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    #21
    Originally posted by lparm
    I think tonight proved that Donaire is the second hardest puncher P4P after Manny in boxing today. The pinoys are beasts when it comes to one punch power. With that kind of power I'd give Donaire a 50-50 against anyone close to his weight and that includes juanma.
    actually I think wlad is a bigger puncher than pac or nonito. at 118 nonito packs a bigger punch than pac a 147 lbs.

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      #22
      Originally posted by joelab75
      TS was talking about p4p. Manny carries his power from 106 lbs to 147. Mosley didnt knock out or even knock down Cotto. now you're telling me Mosley hits harder? Pac gave up 17 lbs against Marg but Marg looks more battered in 6 round agains Pac than the whole fight against Mosley. if you dont call that a hard punches i dont know what is.
      Cotto boxed (and outboxed, might I add) Mosley. He fought a very smart fight, and didn't allow Mosley to land those huge shots. Against Pacquiao, he tried to bully the smaller fighter, but failed miserably. Plus the damage Pac did to Cotto and Margarito was due to an accumulation of shots, not huge power. If Manny had Mosley's power, he would have taken Margo in like 6 to 8 rounds.

      I understand that he carried power through the weight classes, but come on, he's nowhere near the hardest puncher p4p. Even at the lower weight classes he was nowhere near that. Aside from Hatton, most of his big knockouts were from accumulations (Barrera, Morales, Cotto, DLH, etc), where as guys like Mosley, Cintron and Bailey are capable of taking you out at any given moment.

      As for Donaire, now THAT'S raw one punch knockout power.

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        #23
        Originally posted by BoxerDood
        Cotto boxed (and outboxed, might I add) Mosley. He fought a very smart fight, and didn't allow Mosley to land those huge shots. Against Pacquiao, he tried to bully the smaller fighter, but failed miserably. Plus the damage Pac did to Cotto and Margarito was due to an accumulation of shots, not huge power. If Manny had Mosley's power, he would have taken Margo in like 6 to 8 rounds.

        I understand that he carried power through the weight classes, but come on, he's nowhere near the hardest puncher p4p. Even at the lower weight classes he was nowhere near that. Aside from Hatton, most of his big knockouts were from accumulations (Barrera, Morales, Cotto, DLH, etc), where as guys like Mosley, Cintron and Bailey are capable of taking you out at any given moment.

        As for Donaire, now THAT'S raw one punch knockout power.
        The first KD against Cotto was a single punch, the second one that dropped him was an accumulation. Having a hard punch doesn't mean you're going to walk through and drop every guy you fight after you land one punch. Don't be an idiot it doesn't work that way. The higher in class you go the better the fighters and at world class very few fighters have weak chins meaning that your power seems diminished when in fact it's not. You can't break someones face without serious power. Donaire KO'd a guy his own size, Manny sent 2 guys much bigger than him to the hospital because his power damaged them so badly. When Donaire moves up to 126-130 and puts the elite guys at those weights in hospital from his punches I'll be the first to admit he hits harder than Pac. Until then Margs face, Hatton, Joto, and Cotto would agree Manny has P4P the hardest punch.

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          #24
          Originally posted by lparm
          Speed is a small part of the equation. Remember Floyd has very fast hands, probably top 10 in boxing for speed behind Manny, Donaire, Sergio, etc. and he isn't exactly knocking over buildings. Donaire is copying Manny's style and it's working to perfection.
          you fail

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            #25
            Originally posted by lparm
            I wasn't referring to the overall fighting style just the punching style. Donaire is copying Manny by using his legs to add more power to the punch. It's a great strategy to copy the best I can't fault the guy.
            manny's the only one to do this??????

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              #26
              Pacman can't be the hardest puncher pfp if he isn't even the hardest punching welterweight.Pacman hurts U in punch volume.Donaire has genuine 1 punch power.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
                Pacman can't be the hardest puncher pfp if he isn't even the hardest punching welterweight.Pacman hurts U in punch volume.Donaire has genuine 1 punch power.
                Hop off Donaire nuts for one sec and listen to this arguement. Donaire beat Vic who has always been a hypejob I've been saying that for 2 years or so (threads will prove it) and now he KO'd a guy that had already been down 6 previous times in his career. Conversely Manny was the first to score a clean KD on Erik and 1st to stop him, the 2nd guy ever to stop MAB, dropped JMM 4 times, stopped Joto, destroyed Hatton, beat the crap out of Cotto and broke Margs face. Yeah I suppose beating a hypejob and an average chinned champ definitely makes Donaire the harder puncher, right?

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                  #28
                  Have you guys forgot how hard James Kirkland punches?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bierstadt
                    I would take you seriously if you didn't just claim Pacquiao as the P4P #1 hardest puncher.
                    Pacquiao fighting guys 17lbs heavier than him and rocking/hurting them/busting them up. If that doesn't count as power, I don't know what does. Then when they are at his weight class, he blows them out with ease(KO2 Hatton). I think the reason you think Pacquiao doesn't hit hard is because he hasn't exactly been dropping or KOing these monster opponents as of late, but it's because he's fighting bigger guys. Yet he still manages to put a beat down on them. I think you'll see more Hatton style KOs if he went back down to 140lbs...

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ELPacman
                      Pacquiao fighting guys 17lbs heavier than him and rocking/hurting them/busting them up. If that doesn't count as power, I don't know what does. Then when they are at his weight class, he blows them out with ease(KO2 Hatton). I think the reason you think Pacquiao doesn't hit hard is because he hasn't exactly been dropping or KOing these monster opponents as of late, but it's because he's fighting bigger guys. Yet he still manages to put a beat down on them. I think you'll see more Hatton style KOs if he went back down to 140lbs...
                      ^^^^

                      Finally someone that doesn't think Manny should walk through men a foot taller and outweigh him by 100 lbs. He busts these guys up with his ATG power, and like I said the higher in class you go the better the chins. Margs has only been KO'd once but even in that defeat he never suffered like he did against Manny. His face was broken, broken ffs. That's power.

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