5 Reasons why Manny Pacquiao is the GOAT

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  • BigStereotype
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    #11
    Originally posted by wcb
    No, cuts and facial swelling are not serious damage.

    Leonard was a dancer and could shuffle but Pacquiao uses his feet better.

    Pacquiao is much faster than Tyson.

    Marquez got dominated by Mayweather and nearly lost to Casamayor, Diaz and Katsidis. Pre-Pacquiao Marquez is much better.
    Wait...what is serious damage then? If the cuts he suffered against Morales aren't damage, what could possibly be construed as damage? Also, Marquez got dominated by Mayweather based purely on size and speed. It wasn't a damage thing. Casamayor was a good fighter and he wasn't ever in a position to lose that fight. Diaz was an excellent fighter, KO 9. Katsidis got dominated except for one punch. His reflexes are slowing down a bit, but that's due to age, not beating Pacquiao up twice.

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    • wcb
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      #12
      Originally posted by BigStereotype
      Wait...what is serious damage then? If the cuts he suffered against Morales aren't damage, what could possibly be construed as damage? Also, Marquez got dominated by Mayweather based purely on size and speed. It wasn't a damage thing. Casamayor was a good fighter and he wasn't ever in a position to lose that fight. Diaz was an excellent fighter, KO 9. Katsidis got dominated except for one punch. His reflexes are slowing down a bit, but that's due to age, not beating Pacquiao up twice.
      Serious damage = broken bones, serious hospitalization, etc.

      Marquez lost to Mayweather because he didn't have the skills that he once had, anymore.

      Casamayor was ahead on the scorecards before getting caught. Diaz nearly knocked out Marquez early on before the bell saved him. Katsidis knocked down Marquez and had him seriously hurt and could've knocked him out but the referee saved him.

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        #13
        Originally posted by wcb
        No, cuts and facial swelling are not serious damage.

        Leonard was a dancer and could shuffle but Pacquiao uses his feet better.

        Pacquiao is much faster than Tyson.

        Marquez got dominated by Mayweather and nearly lost to Casamayor, Diaz and Katsidis. Pre-Pacquiao Marquez is much better.
        In his 1 and only fight at 147 ( after stepping up 2 divisions) he got dominated by the best guy at 147, there is no shame in that.

        He beat Casamayor, Diaz and Katsidis.

        Pac is about half the size of Tyson he should be faster. Your original post said "Speed/Power". Relative to size Tyson is damn sure an equal and i hate the guy.

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          #14
          Apparently getting knocked out does not count as serious damage.

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            #15
            Originally posted by wcb
            Serious damage = broken bones, serious hospitalization, etc.

            Marquez lost to Mayweather because he didn't have the skills that he once had, anymore.
            Casamayor was ahead on the scorecards before getting caught. Diaz nearly knocked out Marquez early on before the bell saved him. Katsidis knocked down Marquez and had him seriously hurt and could've knocked him out but the referee saved him.
            Mayweather was a seasoned 147 fighter, JMM had never fought above 135. That was a major factor on its own without even mentioning the fact Floyd came in over the weight anyway.

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              #16
              Originally posted by wcb
              Serious damage = broken bones, serious hospitalization, etc.

              Marquez lost to Mayweather because he didn't have the skills that he once had, anymore.

              Casamayor was ahead on the scorecards before getting caught. Diaz nearly knocked out Marquez early on before the bell saved him. Katsidis knocked down Marquez and had him seriously hurt and could've knocked him out but the referee saved him.
              You aren't even worth arguing with. And I LOVE to feed trolls. You are just really, really dumb.

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              • wcb
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                #17
                Originally posted by BigStereotype
                You aren't even worth arguing with. And I LOVE to feed trolls. You are just really, really dumb.
                You're just mad because Marquez is your favorite fighter and I proved you wrong.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by wcb
                  No, cuts and facial swelling are not serious damage.Leonard was a dancer and could shuffle but Pacquiao uses his feet better.

                  Pacquiao is much faster than Tyson.Marquez got dominated by Mayweather and nearly lost to Casamayor, Diaz and Katsidis. Pre-Pacquiao Marquez is much better.
                  Tyson was much more powerful. Manny has never been a one punch KO fighter but I have seen that myth sneak into existence. Basically if you dont get carried out of the ring theres no damage?

                  Originally posted by Easy-E
                  Apparently getting knocked out does not count as serious damage.
                  I tried to avoid that fact but I would like to hear his arguement..

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Chups
                    Can't believe you forgot the feat that will be almost impossible to surpass. Four Lineal World titles in 4 different divisions.
                    it actually already kind of happened, Henry Armstrong arguably was robbed when he fought for the Middleweight title...not to mention that in those days, there was no such thing as the Jr and super weight classes.

                    essentially Armstrong was the lineal champ at featherweight, super featherweight, lightweight, lightwelterweight, and welterweight since those weight classes were merged together.

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                    • wcb
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by studentofthegam
                      Tyson was much more powerful. Manny has never been a one punch KO fighter but I have seen that myth sneak into existence. Basically if you dont get carried out of the ring theres no damage?

                      I tried to avoid that fact but I would like to hear his arguement..
                      I'm talking pound for pound and pound for pound Pacquiao is faster and more powerful than Tyson.

                      He KO'd Hatton with one shot which was the knockout of the year, thank you very much.

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