Floyd Mayweather Jr is going to FIGHT either SHARMBA MITCHELL or JOEL CASAMAYOR

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  • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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    #31
    Originally posted by Bombardier
    But nobody wants to fight him...he tried everybody, do you really blame him for this?
    I think there are a lot of fighters out there that would love to fight Mayweather, especially as he has this P4P tag hanging around his neck.

    I don't think he's as avoided as he'll try to make people think.

    I believe that if a fighter in his position, genuienly wants to fight guys like Hatton/Tszyu/Cotto/Judah/Margarito to prove his P4P worth, he could get the fights made at the click of a finger.

    The whole Mayweather parade is starting to frustrate me... I really enjoy watching him fight but HE HAS to fight a LIVE opponent sooner or later. (It's been 3yrs since the Castillo II fight).

    You don't see guys like Morales bitching about money etc as to why they won't fight certain fighters... They just get on with the job.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Martin.
      I think there are a lot of fighters out there that would love to fight Mayweather, especially as he has this P4P tag hanging around his neck.

      I don't think he's as avoided as he'll try to make people think.

      I believe that if a fighter in his position, genuienly wants to fight guys like Hatton/Tszyu/Cotto/Judah/Margarito to prove his P4P worth, he could get the fights made at the click of a finger.

      The whole Mayweather parade is starting to frustrate me... I really enjoy watching him fight but HE HAS to fight a LIVE opponent sooner or later. (It's been 3yrs since the Castillo II fight).

      You don't see guys like Morales bitching about money etc as to why they won't fight certain fighters... They just get on with the job.
      Certain guys will fight no matter what the terms, while others will take it as an insult if certain conditions aren't met...usually the revenue split is what destroys these deals.

      Floyd, like Hopkins, will only take a fight if he feels that the terms are what he deserves. I don't think he is actually ducking anybody but I think unless he gets the contract that he feels is appropriate he won't sign.

      I understand that that can be pretty damn frustrating for fight fans who want to see him take on the best. Especially when it's someone like Floyd, whose opinion of himself is inflated compared to his actual market worth.

      However I do try to cut fighters a bit of slack when it comes to this sort of thing. Boxing is a brutal business, run by promoters that will exploit you at every turn if you don't watch out. It's every man for himself and that kind of situation can get anyone a little paranoid.

      Floyd's ego definitely gets in the way of him making certain fights, however some of the guys on your list genuinely don't want to fight him. However I think the Zab and Winky fights could have been made if he'd have been a bit more flexible.

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      • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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        #33
        Originally posted by Bombardier
        Certain guys will fight no matter what the terms, while others will take it as an insult if certain conditions aren't met...usually the revenue split is what destroys these deals.

        Floyd, like Hopkins, will only take a fight if he feels that the terms are what he deserves. I don't think he is actually ducking anybody but I think unless he gets the contract that he feels is appropriate he won't sign.

        I understand that that can be pretty damn frustrating for fight fans who want to see him take on the best. Especially when it's someone like Floyd, whose opinion of himself is inflated compared to his actual market worth.

        However I do try to cut fighters a bit of slack when it comes to this sort of thing. Boxing is a brutal business, run by promoters that will exploit you at every turn if you don't watch out. It's every man for himself and that kind of situation can get anyone a little paranoid.

        Floyd's ego definitely gets in the way of him making certain fights, however some of the guys on your list genuinely don't want to fight him. However I think the Zab and Winky fights could have been made if he'd have been a bit more flexible.
        I agree with you on the Zab fight... But Mayweather needs to remeber that Zab Judah is the undisputed welterweight champion.

        I don't think Mayweather was ever really serious about fighting Winky Wright.

        Boxing is a brutal business... And it's true, there are promoters that are looking to rip off fighters at every move, however in Floyds situation and to use the words Lennox Lewis once said to Mike Tyson, "put up or shut up!"

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          #34
          Originally posted by Martin.
          I agree with you on the Zab fight... But Mayweather needs to remeber that Zab Judah is the undisputed welterweight champion.

          I don't think Mayweather was ever really serious about fighting Winky Wright.

          Boxing is a brutal business... And it's true, there are promoters that are looking to rip off fighters at every move, however in Floyds situation and to use the words Lennox Lewis once said to Mike Tyson, "put up or shut up!"
          I think the Wright fight could have happened, I really do. As for Zab, he wanted to make the fight at 148, which really doesn't make him the titleholder anymore, does it? So that part of the argument sort of goes out the window.

          You mention Morales a lot as a guy who always fights the best out there. Agreed that Erik is a warrior, but he also leads a bit of a charmed life because for some reason everyone always thinks that they can beat him. At least that's the way it seems. Many of his biggest fights: the Barrera fights, Pacquiao, Ayala come to mind right way, were made because these guys thought that Morales was there for the taking. Since he only has two losses against the same guy it's hard to tell why this is, but it's just sort of worked out that way.

          Not to take anything away from him, of course. Full credit is due to him for never backing down from a challenge.

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          • SAN D13GO VILLAN
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            #35
            I done gave up on mayweather and I'm staring to think hes a little ***** for not fighting margarito or atleast somebody that would give him some trouble he hasnt fought anybody dangerous since castillo!!! and after the gatti ppv fight (which 80% of the people were their for gatti and 20% for mayweather) now he think hes de la hoya pricing his self out. whats really going on? hes allready has a few million in the bank! stop being greedy! and fight the best!

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            • 2_piece_combos
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              #36
              Casa is barely a lightweight, and he will be ineffective at 140. For a supposed PPV fighter, Floyd is a ***** for making Casa come up to 140. Casa can barely go 12 effective rounds at 135. Floyd needs to fight someone that's been at 140, and not travel the Cotto route. There are other fighters he can fight that will give him a better challenge than Casa. Casa just has a name. I know that fight can't pull high PPV numbers. At least, I won't buy it.

              Though I do believe Casa will pose some problems, but he simply isn't big enough to do any damage at 140. Why doesn't he fight his mandatory Junior Witter?

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              • ZABJUDAH#1P4P
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                #37
                mayweather

                well hatton has ducked mayweather repeatedly. anyone who saw the gatti fight saw all through the fight hattons expression, and when it was over he had the same look. he knows he has no chance against floyd thats why he was so pissed, and THATS WHY HE ADMITTED HE WANTED GATTI TO WIN. hatton has turned him down twice since the gatti fight. i know people want to see that fight a lot so thats why i say this.

                as for mitchell he is still very very good, i think he would beat margarito with his style. mitchell is a good fight for anyone, anyone who saw his last fight knows that everything is still there for him. his speed, accuracy, and everything were perfect.

                casamayor is the best from 140 and down besides mayweather. this is mayweathers toughest opponent from 140 and down. casa has very good skills, speed, and would give mayweather a lot more trouble than someone like hatton or cotto because of his style. casamayor has never lost i dont care what his record says, he beat chico x2, castillo, freitas, and diamond clearly. either opponent would be a good opponent for mayweather.

                i will say that i hope it is not casamayor because i like him so much, and i want him to get rematches with castillo, freitas, and chico, and dimaond. a loss would pretty much take that out of his possibilities. i would want mayweather to beat him of course but i dont want to see him lose. they both have plenty more to do.

                so i hope its mitchell. my first choice would be hatton, cause im sick of hearing how hes the best at 140 and how he would beat mayweather, but clearly its his ***** ass thats running from mayweather so you cant blame floyd for that one.

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                  #38
                  lets get things straight here, how do you know hatton turned him down twice? what because mayweather said so...enough said really, from what i heard he was expecting 20 million for the fight. Mayweather needs to remember he has only sold one PPV and he should't be asking for millions without a fanbase to back it up, ok yes the boxing purest would love to see him fight but the general public... thats a different story. Im sick of hearing oh hes ducked him hes ducked that without any evidence or why the fight hasn't come of.

                  Hatton should be getting world "elite" title fights soon now hes walked away from warren, if woods can get 4 title shots with the sheffield promoter there should be no problem. Hatton said he wants to fight mayweather and ricky's trainer said mayweather is open to the left hook and is very beatable. Mayweather needs to shutup and dominate his own division before he starts talking **** about other fighters, just going by personalities theres only one side i would believe and thats a genuine honest hatton not some light weight wannabe oscar del hoya!

                  mayweather should take on witter, only to be knocked out because he said he never watches fighters and witter is very awkard naz like because of ingle training. Or is that some bull**** that mayweather comes out with to say to himself i don't need to look @ how boxers fight im too damn good, i would like to see him against a southpaw also!

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                  • 2_piece_combos
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ZABJUDAH#1P4P

                    casamayor is the best from 140 and down besides mayweather.
                    How to do gather this when Casa has not yet fought at 140?

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                    • jabsRstiff
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                      #40
                      Mitchell is absolutely damaged goods....don't want to see him & Floyd.


                      Casamayor is not a 140lb fighter, & struggled wih Kid ****in' Diamond...no way he deserves a shot at 140.

                      If Floyd fights either, they should be 10-rounders, & viewed strictly as tune-ups.

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