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Floyd Mayweather has a couple of close decisions on his ledger & certainly doesn't have a career 90% winning rd ratio... he's close but i'd say he's around 80% tops... Manny... PACK lately has been close to 90% but for his ENTIRE career is less than Floyd's.. also the criteria is KNOCKOUT.. percentage & that further discounts pretty much every other last name not named Klitschko in the history of boxing.
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Ricardo Lopez and Floyd Mayweather Jr.Comment
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yeah, but he was badly robbed in that fight, even Ray Leonard admits that. also he wasnt getting outboxed, but Ray won some rounds when he rocked Hearns.
The Klitschko brothers are excellent fighters, but you dont have to put down other fighters to make them excellent...they can prove that on their own.Comment
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The Klitschko brothers are excellent fighters, but you dont have to put down other fighters to make them excellent...they can prove that on their own.
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Thing is..i'm NOT putting down other greats...i'm just showing people how dominant the brothers have been. Usually in ANY sport you're revered when you've been the most dominant & have put up the best numbers.
The BROTHER'S K collectively or individually well Vitali at least have put up the best statistics the sport has ever seen... manny pac/floyd mayweather don't even have this type of overall dominance but they get credit for being some of the best boxers of alltime.
The brothers do it all...they win rds like nobody's bizness & kNOCK U out at a record pace but all we get is excuses that they're supposed to be doing that because of their size...their competition isn't all that..they didn't face ALI or Louis... Shoot if anything Bill Russell & Wilt Chamberlain had same & even more physical advantages over most of there opponents... never faced Shaq...HAKEEM & all the other greats that followed..
.NEVER went up against the greatest of them all MJ but receive full credit for there accomplishments even when all evidence points to the fact they'd have been much less dominant in modern times. The example i just gave is that there have been many centers In Wilt's talent level & size since then at 7 ft plus & LORD knows Russell was 6ft 9...how many his size since then has there been?
Now let's look at The Klitschko's....there has been no one there size that has comparitive skills..perhaps Lennox or Rid**** Bowe but I think they're slightly smaller Defintely smaller than VK & they didn't dominate in the same fashion.. wHERE the hell was Wilt's & Bill's competition & why weren't they penalized for taking on even worse competition than what the Klitschko's have faced.....
There comes a time where we as boxing fans have to recognize what we're witnessing here is not going to come along anytime soon..plus the fact they're both brothers competing in the same division at the same levels... This has never been seen before & we're missing out because of hate..jealousy....dare i say racism because they're not from the states.
I'm not buying the fact that they're boring.... blame there opponen ts for that. Dominance should never be boring..we're taking out EVERY ONE OF THERE opponents ineptitude & holding it against the Klitschkos WHEN IT'S THE KLITSCHKO'S THAT ARE MAKING EVERYONE OF THERE OPPONENTS dismal. The Klitschko's are doing this...no one else..
All of Vitali's opponents come in overweight because they're already beaten psycologically just facing him...they know how big he is & they feel the bigger they are the better chance they have to absorb his physical impact.. It's a strategy on there part that backfires because of who they're facing..so let's start giving credit to Vitali for this as he is intimidating other fighters to come into the fight with extra poundage.. Doesn't happen all the time but make no mistake... Lewis intentionally came in at his highest weight & most of Vitali'S LATEST opponents have as well.. Vitali IS INTIMIDATING...they see how big & mean he is in the press conferences up close & decide they need to get bigger to counter that..... that's the truth & nothing but the truth & am sticking by it.Comment
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Great thread.
Wlad and Vitali are the two most dominant fighters of all time.Last edited by Steelhammer2011; 02-17-2011, 01:04 AM.Comment
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We have 2 alltime great heavys atop the division which is rare & they are brothers to boot. They both are unbeatable at the moment both haven't LOST a legitimate rd in years. If they fought each other it would be the biggest selling fight worldwide of alltime..esp if promoted right...you'd get fans who never heard of them paying to see 2 brothers fight for supremacy for the title of strongest fighter in the world. 2 fighters fighting each other on the biggest stage when they are the 2 best heavys in the world..who wouldn't wanna see that. This could probably net each fighter 50 million dollars each...we just have to get the brothers drunk & have them screw each other's girl & it's on...that would also take care of the sparring factor as well.Comment
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Theyre good no doubt. The best ever probably not. I can deny maybe the most dominant in their era tho. Ive always been a fan of Vitali and Wlad grew on me. He took some brutal knockouts and came back strong. I just dont wanna see vitali running again like he did against Arreola.Comment
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