How many times do you think Berto will eat canvas on April 16th?

[Sweet Jesus]

He was legitimately KD by Collazo and Quintana and neither were called, considering those are the best guys he faced I wouldn't say he has shown much.

Quintana KD should have been scored, but he beat Quintana up anyway.

I don't remember the Collazo KD, what round did that happen in?

[Spray_resistant]

Quintana KD should have been scored, but he beat Quintana up anyway.

I don't remember the Collazo KD, what round did that happen in?

It was in the 1st where he was hit fell into the ropes and would have been down had he not bounced off to regain balance.

[boxer2k5]

as soon as berto hit ortiz dude will forgot all his strengths and back peddal and try to box being in defense and lose.

[Rip Chudd]

How many 26 year olds in boxing have beaten top opponents?

Khan just beat Maidana. There you go.

[pistol whip]

since when has berto showed weakness?

compared to ortiz who's already quit..

there's nothing to suggest berto is going down at all.

Again with the quitting shhiitt? How long are you guys gonna hold on to that ******ity?

[pistol whip]

Suger Ray Robinson quit in a fight, Robert Duran quit in a fight, Isreal vasquez quit in a fight, and u know what every one of them was a blood and guts warrior!

Seriously shut the *** up about it.

[rochemback]

I wouldn't bet on a single time.
If we'll see the over-cautious Ortiz of the fights against Peterson, Campbell, Alatorre and Antonio Diaz - and I believe we will - the fight won't be very spectacular and Berto will probably win a decision in a fight that won't come anywhere close for fight of the year...

I am a fan of Victor and I would really like to see him succeed, but his last 4 (actually 5 with the Maidana bout) fights were rather disappointing.

[Sweet Jesus]

It was in the 1st where he was hit fell into the ropes and would have been down had he not bounced off to regain balance.

You dumb.

[Sweet Jesus]

Khan just beat Maidana. There you go.

[sunny31]

Ortiz is a good puncher but he is just not sharp enough to get to berto. He will become gun shy when he feels berto's power. UD

Oh and ts...collazo is a better fighter than ortiz, the only thing ortiz is got over collazo is that power. Ortiz physically has everything you need to reach the top level, but he has never ironed out the kinks in his defence and he is missing some important ingredients that I think is not so much of a secret anymore.