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Freddie Roach: "Mosley Is Past It But Manny Won't Get Into A Slugfest" (Video)

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  • #11
    Originally posted by check hook View Post
    The only problem with that is that Floyd fought an infinitely better version of ODLH, a better version of Hatton and now a better version of Mosley.

    Pac fought a better version of JMM though at a better weight for him....Floyd made up for this by embarrassing JMM , whilst MP could not beat him convincingly in two tries.
    I agree Mayweather beat a 5 times better version of ODLH...

    But i dont agree he beat a better ricky hatton....Hattons style is made for pacquiao..... Mayweather wasnt hurting Hatton for the first few rounds, thats why hatton still managed to win a few rounds....Pacquiao was hurting hatton from the first few punches he landed....

    And I dont see how shane is gonna be much different from when he faught mayweather, to fighting pacquiao now.....If anything he was overtrained for the mayweather fight...

    And yes, JMM was 5 x less the fighter he was when pacquiao faught him...

    So its kinda 50/50....Although i gotta give pac the edge...only cos he was still a smaller fighter coming up, when mayweather was a welterweight for a much longer time(bar the ODLH fight)

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    • #12
      Did Roach really just say that? To show we perform better against common opponents? How 5th grade is that? I just want to see Floyd and Manny fight...sadly, I don't think it will happen though.

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      • #13
        shane deserves one final hurrah
        he's had a tremendous career



        if manny moves around the ring and fights going in and out like he did against oscar he will pick shane apart
        shane's having trouble speaking these days
        nevermind dealing with the fastest hands in the division if manny does decide to box


        i'd like for the fighters to slug it out in a high profile fight
        it hasnt happened in years
        it will be great for the sport

        and give shane his only chance


        additionally, manny LOVES to fight

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        • #14
          Originally posted by check hook View Post
          The only problem with that is that Floyd fought an infinitely better version of ODLH,
          agree, but pac still made dlh quit

          a better version of Hatton
          false. hatton is better at 140 lbs.

          and now a better version of Mosley.
          false. mosley was coming off a long lay off.

          Pac fought a better version of JMM though at a better weight for him....
          true.

          Floyd made up for this by embarrassing JMM ,
          except wifebeater didn't bother to make the 144 lbs catchweight so he gets no credit for beating up a blown up lightweight.

          whilst MP could not beat him convincingly in two tries.
          at weights were jmm were at his best, mind you.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by check hook View Post
            oh i agree......i think he is too.......i also believe it is the product of two things

            1. Performance enhancing drugs
            proof?

            2. Clever matchmaking
            like trollweather isn't the product of clever matchmaking himself?

            PED's or not he still gets credit from me for beating Clottey, Margo and Cotto
            3 guys maytroller ducked.

            i think he's dirty though
            burden of proof is on the accuser.

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            • #16
              Pacquiao did not face a better Hatton. Responses like that is why I assume the majority of people on this board never played a sport in their life. Ignoring the fact that with time it actually becomes more difficult to make your original weight. Confidence is a huge factor in performance, in any sport.

              Going into the Mayweather fight he was unbeaten, he'd essentially have the belief that he could not lose. Going into the Pacquiao fight he had people claiming he was shot the the knowledge that he had been beaten.

              I don't care if Pacquiao KOs Mosley in the first round, I will not see it as a more impressive victory than Mayweather domination over Mosley because the guy is not a factor. He got beaten 11 rounds to 1 and drew against a bum.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by puga View Post
                so what......floyd has been a xylocaine user his whiole carreer, you aint b1tchin about his drug use....
                Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                proof?


                like trollweather isn't the product of clever matchmaking himself?


                3 guys maytroller ducked.


                burden of proof is on the accuser.
                take the c..k out your mouth we can't hear you...........do you ever post about anything other than mayweather?....stalker

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                • #18
                  freddie roach in all his glory. So if mosley is as you say he is, why is the so called greatest fighter of this era fighting him? Fans deserve better.......

                  Manny fights should be like the superbowl for boxing. How the hell did mosley get that slot?

                  should of retired? and then they want to fight him, sad!!!!!!

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                  • #19
                    pac plays around too much. he'll try and see if he can take mosley's punches early. if he can, he'll brawl a little. if he can't, he'll box.

                    later in the fight when mosley is gassed, pac will be a little reckless. what can you say, he's an offensive punching machine.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by puga View Post
                      so what......floyd has been a xylocaine user his whiole carreer, you aint b1tchin about his drug use....
                      I'm still trying to figure out when xylocaine became a PED or illegal?

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