After Rewatching Montiel-Hasegawa....

[Russian Crushin]

I just cant see how Montiel can beat Donaire, other then a Hasegawa type KO

He was obviously losing the Hasegawa fight, one judge having 0-3 rounds for Hasegawa and the other 2 having it 1-2 for Hasegawa before the KO.

Donaire is a much better fighter then Hasegawa, being faster, bigger, more powerful, and a much better boxer.

He also Swings and misses alot with hooks, which would be prime for Donaire to counter

So im saying KO 11 for Donaire but not counting out a flash KO by Montiel which he has done a few times

[Dagomba]

Considering how Montiel performs againsts southpaws i was very impressed.

[Russian Crushin]

Considering how Montiel performs againsts southpaws i was very impressed.

You mean that he didnt do that bad against Hasegawa?

Thing is Donaire can and most likely will fight southpaw against him so that can really trouble him

[krazyn8tive]

Donaire will win by k.o. ///end thread///

[Dagomba]

You mean that he didnt do that bad against Hasegawa?

Thing is Donaire can and most likely will fight southpaw against him so that can really trouble him

Oh without a doubt, Donaire can fight effectively on a southpaw stance. However he tends to trade a bit more wrecklessly while fighting southpaw. I don't think it's written in stone and it's going to be a hell of a fight.

[Ido]

I would say its fairly obvious if you’ve seen a few fights of his. But Fernando losses the first two rounds, since he is tossing probing punches to measure range.

Fernando from round 3rd, lowers his stance, and arms for two reasons.

1 - it deceives a boxers ability to read his body language. You can not tell what punches, or how strong they are from that stance.

2 - he uses lower center of gravity, to pivot his body upward to create inertia thus land harder blows.

The cons of using this stance, well it leaves yourself stationary, especially against foes with good hand speed, and footwork.

[Russian Crushin]

Oh without a doubt, Donaire can fight effectively on a southpaw stance. However he tends to trade a bit more wrecklessly while fighting southpaw. I don't think it's written in stone and it's going to be a hell of a fight.

I hope he doesnt start playing around going back and forth between orthodox and southpaw.

I am very excited to see this fight, even though ill probably miss it live, because both are great champs

But i see Donaire walking away with the win

[Russian Crushin]

I would say its fairly obvious if you’ve seen a few fights of his. But Fernando losses the first two rounds, since he is tossing probing punches to measure range.

Fernando from round 3rd, lowers his stance, and arms for two reasons.

1 - it deceives a boxers ability to read his body language. You can not tell what punches, or how strong they are from that stance.

2 - he uses lower center of gravity, to pivot his body upward to create inertia thus land harder blows.

The cons of using this stance, well it leaves yourself stationary, especially against foes with good hand speed, and footwork.

Im going by his last fight against a great fighter who is also a south paw

In that fight Montiel did neither of those

[theplayerpimp]

I just cant see how Montiel can beat Donaire, other then a Hasegawa type KO

He was obviously losing the Hasegawa fight, one judge having 0-3 rounds for Hasegawa and the other 2 having it 1-2 for Hasegawa before the KO.

Donaire is a much better fighter then Hasegawa, being faster, bigger, more powerful, and a much better boxer.

He also Swings and misses alot with hooks, which would be prime for Donaire to counter

So im saying KO 11 for Donaire but not counting out a flash KO by Montiel which he has done a few times

Well hasegawa has such an akward style i dont see how you could compare it to donaire. They are two diffrent animals and both great fighters in their own right.

[tesla_power]

One thing is uncertain though is how well could Donaire receive Montiel's punches. Donaire has never been in that position is his last 7-8 fights. I'm thinking he would box his way out similar to what he did to the Concepcion fight. But Montiel is way better than Concepcion.

On the other hand, Montiel often looses the early rounds and make adjustments later. If memory serves me right, he nearly got in trouble with Z Gorres because of that. Whether this plays in his favor... I'm not sure as Donaire is a thinking boxer and he makes the adjustment himself if necessary.

The more I think about it ... Donaire chances grow. But this is not a sure stuff ... not it any stretch.