Comments Thread For: Montiel: "I'm Desperate To Get My Hands on Donaire!"

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  • El Talegon
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    #31
    Originally posted by JOM'S
    one thing for sure, credit should be given to the winner of this fight ...

    WAR NONITO!!
    OH no doubt man. I got Montiel. should be a great fight for sure man.

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    • johnm is...
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      #32
      Originally posted by Laborer
      I agree. why? becoz the weight/height debate is really not the issue. We are talking size, here, proportion, the physical dimension. Example: Compare someone who is 5'8", 200lbs, to someone to who 6'2", and also 200lbs. Which, do you guys think, has the bigger proportion, i.e., longer reach, bigger hands, broader shoulder? Who has the bigger dimensions? Boxing only has weight as a classification but it certainly doesn't cover the size issue. I'm not blaming boxing here, just pointing a valid argument.

      I rest my case.
      The problem, is that it's not a valid argument. Not at all, really. So, Donaire is bigger... OK. Wouldn't that make it that much harder on him to make the weight? If he puts in the hard work to make the weight, then he has EARNED the right to fight at that weight. Like it or not.

      If we sit around waiting on fights to be made between 2 fighters who have the same "dimensions", we're going to miss out on a hell of a lot of boxing.

      Some "fans" need to stop with all the excuses, and just enjoy the fights.

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      • killakali
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        #33
        Originally posted by LeadUppercut
        I can't wait for this fight. I think that I'm still supporting Fernando, but I might change my mind again before the fight

        Huge props to both guys, both warriors, one will become a legend.

        WARRR Montiel !!

        WARRR Donaire !!

        Let's get it on

        Chill on Donaire, I sure as hell don't think that Montiel is miffed because Nonito is "picking on him"

        The guys are right, boxing has weight divisions, not height divisions. Usually when you lose in one area you make up in another.

        But Laborer is correct in saying that a taller fighter can sometimes have a physical advantage, it's just swings and roundabouts. One glaring example is P-Will at 147.

        The best fighter usually wins regardless, ask Sergio

        Donaire will move up eventually, and it's not like he's asking Montiel to fight two divisions higher than his natural weight, like Pacquiao will do to Marquez.
        Height isn't a classification. You make points in comparing a 5'8" 200 lb guy vs. a 6'2" guy who weighs 200 lbs. What you are forgetting is leverage and some guys (like Montiel) know how to use their height or lack of height as leverage and many guys don't use their height and/or reach advantage.

        You mentioned Martinez vs Williams and Manny vs. any of his last fighters.

        Go back was Floyd too big when he fought at super featherweight and how about Oscar at lightweight? It is called moving up in weight. How do you think guys like that can get titles in 5-6 different weight classes? As they get older their frames fill out.

        On that note Donaire is on his 3rd weight class and plans to move to 122 soon if not in his next fight. Montiel is moving up in his next fight regardless.

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        • Eaner0919
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          #34
          Originally posted by xcaret v3
          Donaire fighting smaller men... pathetic...
          nice try but this is Montiel's 9th fight since he officially moved up to 118 and does not count the four other times he fought above 115

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          • JOM'S
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            #35
            Originally posted by El Talegon
            OH no doubt man. I got Montiel. should be a great fight for sure man.
            no doubt about it bro, this fight will be great!

            And may the better fighter win!

            War Nonito! War Fernando!!

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            • bluetuazon
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              #36
              Originally posted by LeadUppercut
              I can't wait for this fight. I think that I'm still supporting Fernando, but I might change my mind again before the fight

              Huge props to both guys, both warriors, one will become a legend.

              WARRR Montiel !!

              WARRR Donaire !!

              Let's get it on

              Chill on Donaire, I sure as hell don't think that Montiel is miffed because Nonito is "picking on him"

              The guys are right, boxing has weight divisions, not height divisions. Usually when you lose in one area you make up in another.

              But Laborer is correct in saying that a taller fighter can sometimes have a physical advantage, it's just swings and roundabouts. One glaring example is P-Will at 147.

              The best fighter usually wins regardless, ask Sergio

              Donaire will move up eventually, and it's not like he's asking Montiel to fight two divisions higher than his natural weight, like Pacquiao will do to Marquez.
              like mayweather DID to marquez right??

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              • bluetuazon
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                #37
                Originally posted by johnm
                The problem, is that it's not a valid argument. Not at all, really. So, Donaire is bigger... OK. Wouldn't that make it that much harder on him to make the weight? If he puts in the hard work to make the weight, then he has EARNED the right to fight at that weight. Like it or not.

                If we sit around waiting on fights to be made between 2 fighters who have the same "dimensions", we're going to miss out on a hell of a lot of boxing.

                Some "fans" need to stop with all the excuses, and just enjoy the fights.
                this^^^^^^^^^^^

                lets go nonito!!!

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #38
                  hope it's an epic war so they can do a trilogy.

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                  • devildg
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                    #39
                    Donaire is a natural featherweight. He could fight at that weight right now.

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                    • madsweeney
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by xcaret v3
                      Donaire fighting smaller men... pathetic...
                      Where you *****ing when he Hasegawa (same height as Donaire) fought Montiel?

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