Points on why Manny NEVER has plans to fight Floyd let alone anyone on a win streak.

[Larry the boss]

[AIR_KENG]

1) Manny states he will "pray for Floyd he sorts out his legal problems and can return to the ring so people can see him fight. Yet Mayweathers right in his face and no mention from Manny on his promise of taking full random OST, anytime, anyplace to fight Floyd or even a statement that he hopes Floyd comes back and they fight right away. Remember. Manny's the SAME Manny who is "praying" for Floyd to resolve ALL his legal issues yet FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST Floyd for "hurtful accusations". <----Hilarious.

I wonder if "resolving" Floyd's 'legal issues' include hopefully dropping his request for full random OST for the Congroidsman?

2) This is the same Manny who "fights everybody" yet "wins" a forced vacated 8th title from in house banned Cheato then after winning it in a weight class Sergio Martinez has fought in IMMEDIATELY becomes "too small" especially after Sergio OPENLY challenges an ACTIVE Pac and what does PAc do? He "congratulates" him and runs to fight even older man Mosely. <----Even more hilarious!

3) Team Pac states Arum gives Manny a choice of fighters and the ultimate decision and choice in the final "pick" is done by MANNY. In a recent interview we've all seen Manny states his PROMOTER picked Shane. Which is it? Who finally picked Shane for Manny?? Either Bob or Manny KNEW Shane was the weakest link of the "choices" and or BOTH wanted him at the point he's at ALL along.


4) Any fighter who stands a chance at beating Pac isn't "good enough' to fight Pac even though one has ALREADY proven himself against him, and only become "good enough" if they sign to Top Rank for that in house cash cow Bobfather's control. Marquez, Bradley.

Those facts prove Pac NEVER intended to fight Floyd and Arum is milking his fraudulent media made hype job cash cow off of Floyd's name by signing him to fight any fighter with a name on their way out while using the "Mayweather name" to promote Manny's next fight and "trying in vain" to make Mayweather appear "scared". Arum will only toss Pac to Floyd once he's made as much money off Pac's "entertainment" as he can. Manny WON'T fight ANYONE with a remote chance at beating him as it would RUIN any leverage in negotiations with Floyd. Pac and Floyd fans know it. It's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS by now.

Manny can get hand fed all the "names" he wants with all leverage, requests, conditions they come in to fight him at etc. for their biggest payday....But that isn't doing Manny ANY favors in getting him ready and testing himself for his future CASH OUT when he has to face Floyd in the ring. His fraudulent "legacy", "titles", fans, media, belts, and names on his resume aren't going to help him AT ALL when he's across for Mayweather in the ring. LIKE IT OR NOT KIDS.

just read item number 1 and here's my take:

why should he mention OST or set a date/time to fight Floyd? based on a childish urge to post Manny's previous losses? Your boy was playing mind games, yet he was owned because Manny was the better man.

Here's why Floyd will never fight Manny:
1. He can't accept Manny's greatness. Before the Mosley bout, he fought 40 other guys without random drug testing. And Manny has never failed a drug test. As a fan, I would like Manny to just take the OST and kick Floyd's ass inside the ring, but the man has pride too. It was Floyd's baseless and ****** accusation that killed, and will forever kill the fight.

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[littlemac]

just read item number 1 and here's my take:

why should he mention OST or set a date/time to fight Floyd? based on a childish urge to post Manny's previous losses? Your boy was playing mind games, yet he was owned because Manny was the better man.

Here's why Floyd will never fight Manny:
1. He can't accept Manny's greatness. Before the Mosley bout, he fought 40 other guys without random drug testing. And Manny has never failed a drug test. As a fan, I would like Manny to just take the OST and kick Floyd's ass inside the ring, but the man has pride too. It was Floyd's baseless and ****** accusation that killed, and will forever kill the fight.

Neither Has Mosley.

You mean like he has pride to say he would accept test only to turn it down when it was time to sign. So you don't think perhaps it may be pride on Floyd's behave also that his compromise of his only demand of two weeks was rejected by Pac which then pissed him off to say that its now off the table. Why would you not consider that a possibility. You have a weak arguement to say Pac turned it down because of pride because if that was the case. Why didn't Pac altogether reject it from the begining. You would have a stronger case if he had but Manny rejected it at the very last minute.

It was baseless until Manny raised su****ion when he refused to better testing.

[straightleft]

1) Manny states he will "pray for Floyd he sorts out his legal problems and can return to the ring so people can see him fight. Yet Mayweathers right in his face and no mention from Manny on his promise of taking full random OST, anytime, anyplace to fight Floyd or even a statement that he hopes Floyd comes back and they fight right away. Remember. Manny's the SAME Manny who is "praying" for Floyd to resolve ALL his legal issues yet FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST Floyd for "hurtful accusations". <----Hilarious.

I wonder if "resolving" Floyd's 'legal issues' include hopefully dropping his request for full random OST for the Congroidsman?

2) This is the same Manny who "fights everybody" yet "wins" a forced vacated 8th title from in house banned Cheato then after winning it in a weight class Sergio Martinez has fought in IMMEDIATELY becomes "too small" especially after Sergio OPENLY challenges an ACTIVE Pac and what does PAc do? He "congratulates" him and runs to fight even older man Mosely. <----Even more hilarious!

3) Team Pac states Arum gives Manny a choice of fighters and the ultimate decision and choice in the final "pick" is done by MANNY. In a recent interview we've all seen Manny states his PROMOTER picked Shane. Which is it? Who finally picked Shane for Manny?? Either Bob or Manny KNEW Shane was the weakest link of the "choices" and or BOTH wanted him at the point he's at ALL along.


4) Any fighter who stands a chance at beating Pac isn't "good enough' to fight Pac even though one has ALREADY proven himself against him, and only become "good enough" if they sign to Top Rank for that in house cash cow Bobfather's control. Marquez, Bradley.

Those facts prove Pac NEVER intended to fight Floyd and Arum is milking his fraudulent media made hype job cash cow off of Floyd's name by signing him to fight any fighter with a name on their way out while using the "Mayweather name" to promote Manny's next fight and "trying in vain" to make Mayweather appear "scared". Arum will only toss Pac to Floyd once he's made as much money off Pac's "entertainment" as he can. Manny WON'T fight ANYONE with a remote chance at beating him as it would RUIN any leverage in negotiations with Floyd. Pac and Floyd fans know it. It's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS by now.

Manny can get hand fed all the "names" he wants with all leverage, requests, conditions they come in to fight him at etc. for their biggest payday....But that isn't doing Manny ANY favors in getting him ready and testing himself for his future CASH OUT when he has to face Floyd in the ring. His fraudulent "legacy", "titles", fans, media, belts, and names on his resume aren't going to help him AT ALL when he's across for Mayweather in the ring. LIKE IT OR NOT KIDS.

Pac fought big name fighters Floyd fought and sent them into retirement for good. Floyd can't say the same to Cotto, Clottey and Margarito.

[littlemac]

Pac fought big name fighters Floyd fought and sent them into retirement for good. Floyd can't say the same to Cotto, Clottey and Margarito.

So you don't think that the time and weight the fights take place could affect the similarity of the respected matches?

Would you say that a win againts Sergio at 147 back in 2000 would be just as good as a win againts Sergio now at 160?

[Larry the boss]

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[Larry the boss]

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just read item number 1 and here's my take:

why should he mention OST or set a date/time to fight Floyd? based on a childish urge to post Manny's previous losses? Your boy was playing mind games, yet he was owned because Manny was the better man.

Here's why Floyd will never fight Manny:
1. He can't accept Manny's greatness. Before the Mosley bout, he fought 40 other guys without random drug testing. And Manny has never failed a drug test. As a fan, I would like Manny to just take the OST and kick Floyd's ass inside the ring, but the man has pride too. It was Floyd's baseless and ****** accusation that killed, and will forever kill the fight.

There are various requests fighters ask for in negotiations. That still doesn't mean random OST could or would never be one. Manny AND Floyd would take the same tests and neither would know the cutoff date. Whether it's 18, 14 or any number of days. It's the UNKNOWN that Manny doesn't want to deal with. It's the UNKNOWN cutoff date that Manny wants to determine WHEN it will be. No "weak" excuses. Manny only gets "weak" with the thought he could get caught. Like it or not. So if Floyd "killed" the fight it's because Manny didn't want to submit to an unknown cutoff date which is the whole point of RANDOM ost.

[AIR_KENG]

Neither Has Mosley.

You mean like he has pride to say he would accept test only to turn it down when it was time to sign. So you don't think perhaps it may be pride on Floyd's behave also that his compromise of his only demand of two weeks was rejected by Pac which then pissed him off to say that its now off the table. Why would you not consider that a possibility. You have a weak arguement to say Pac turned it down because of pride because if that was the case. Why didn't Pac altogether reject it from the begining. You would have a stronger case if he had but Manny rejected it at the very last minute.

It was baseless until Manny raised su****ion when he refused to better testing.

But was Pac tried for any drug-related issue? Don't make it look like Shane did not have a history with drugs. He was FOUND to have used drugs, knowingly or not, and that was a good basis to ask him for OST. Remember, the NSAC stores the blood samples of fighters for future testing while technology is still catching up. Pac never failed that. Mosley did.

Manny did not agree to OST at the onset. Was there even a time in the negotiations that both sides were close to signing the contract? NO. They were negotiating, ergo, no contract was there to be signed. Second, two weeks was rejected because the demand was an accusation in itself! It was baseless.

It remains baseless because there is no concrete evidence to prove it. Increased su****ion does not mean the accusation is a valid fact.