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  • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
    I will ask you for the second time, you whiney bull**** artist.....

    Point out anything that I posted, that is even slightly inaccurate

    Especially the bold, you fkn genius.
    First off, Pac fought Cotto and Marg at a catchweight of 145 and 150 respectively.. So based on this you already formulated that it wasnt a great win for Pac?? Forgetting that Cotto came in at 146 in his last weigh in, and Marg is a career WW.. Then you say that Oscar was a better win when we both know that Oscar has not been significant since Hopkins and his first retirement.

    Second, you said that Mitchell, and JMM were better fighters than Clottey, when none of them fought any top level competition at 147 before they fought Floyd...At least Clottey has been in there with the likes of Cotto and Marg, and was competitive in both fights. I may somewhat agree with you with Judah and Baldomir, but they aint no Cotto and Margarito.

    Third, its true that Clottey was 147, and both Marg and Cotto were fought in the catchweight but then this facts are all trivial anyway. What makes it ****** is that you are already formulating an opinion just purely based on this, and then presenting it as a fact as if its an end all of all discussion that cannot be refuted..

    Now you may disagree with my OPINION but at least I am not here presenting it as a FACT as if its irrefutable..

    Now spell the word O W N A G E, and then use that as a fact in your next post...
    Last edited by mikemurni; 02-17-2011, 01:29 PM.

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    • Id just like to remind *****s that there is zero evidence of any PED use and all the fights that took place at a catchweight none of the fighters had any trouble making the weight.


      Chew on that for a little bit before you spin non issues into dramatic ******ity!

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      • Originally posted by mikemurni View Post
        First off, Pac fought Cotto and Marg at a catchweight of 145 and 150 respectively.. So based on this you already formulated that it wasnt a great win for Pac??

        YES !! That is EXACTLY what I am saying genius.

        A catch-weight fight is rubbish. When you demand a catch-weight, you are admitting that you could not compete with that fighter at his natural weight.

        Catch-weight fights are a joke, a worthless exhibition match.

        Anybody who understands boxing is well-aware of that, you may not be.


        Forgetting that Cotto came in at 146 in his last weigh in, and Marg is a career WW.. Then you say that Oscar was a better win when we both know that Oscar has not been significant since Hopkins and his first retirement.

        Don't be so fkn absurd, you ridiculous excuse for a boxing fan.

        The shot, weight-drained, shrink-wrapped, Hoya that weighed 145 two weeks before that fight, the same Hoya that weighed in at 145, and the same Hoya who weighed 145 on fight night..... was a fkn dried up zombie.

        Even Marquez would have knocked him out, so would any top welter, and so would most top JWW's.

        If you don't know that, then you don't know **** about boxing, and you have almost certainly NEVER seen a prime Hoya fight.


        Second, you said that Mitchell, and JMM were better fighters than Clottey, when none of them fought any top level competition at 147 before they fought Floyd...At least Clottey has been in there with the likes of Cotto and Marg, and was competitive in both fights. I may somewhat agree with you with Judah and Baldomir, but they aint no Cotto and Margarito.

        Clottey is a fkn joke, and your box standard Manny-fan adoration of Margarito, is just as ridiculous as your comments on Hoya.

        cheato has NEVER been an elite fighter, or even close, and when he fought Manny for a JMW title, he could not have beaten any of the top welters.

        That clown is Shane's b1tch, and you are Manny's.


        Third, its true that Clottey was 147, and both Marg and Cotto were fought in the catchweight but then this facts are all trivial anyway.

        The facts are not trivial you noob. A boxing legacy is SOLELY determined by who you fought, and when you fought them. That was a ridiculous thing to say.

        Your box-standard assumption that Manny is god no matter who he fights, or who he ducks, or no matter what dodgy advantages that he has to manipulate..... makes you non-boxing Manny-fan's a laughing stock.


        What makes it ****** is that you are already formulating an opinion just purely based on this, and then presenting it as a fact as if its an end all of all discussion that cannot be refuted..

        Now you may disagree with my OPINION but at least I am not here presenting it as a FACT as if its irrefutable..

        I do not agree with your opinion, in fact, I'm not sure if I have EVER agreed with a single thing that you have said. You simply spout off fan-boy rhetoric, and your use of the words "facts" and "irrefutable" were hugely misplaced.

        Your " facts " are inaccurate to say the least, and have been owned accordingly
        .
        "Now spell the word O W N A G E, and then use that as a fact in your next post"

        OK.....

        My reply to your dribble was pure..... O W N A G E

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        • Originally posted by llamas1 View Post
          Mayweathers cheap and dirty antics have totally overshadowed his talent in the ring....
          Most men only worry about what happens in the ring, girls worry about that other stuff.

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          • most of the time, when people who reply in angry bolded letter words and too may ad hominims have run out of arguments and then go circle back on the topic hoping readers are idiotics as them.

            These people are usually *****s....and they are idiots irl.

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            • Originally posted by PAKYO View Post
              most of the time, when people who reply in angry bolded letter words and too may ad hominims have run out of arguments and then go circle back on the topic hoping readers are idiotics as them.

              These people are usually *****s....and they are idiots irl.
              Most people who post, but make no effort at all to indicate what they agree/disagree with, are just whiney b1tches.

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              • Floyd is just trying to get into Pac's head and everytime he tries, it doesn's work. This is how Pac is in Floyds head, by taking the hight road with Floyd's pathetic childish attempts.

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                • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
                  "Now spell the word O W N A G E, and then use that as a fact in your next post"

                  OK.....

                  My reply to your dribble was pure..... O W N A G E
                  First, knowing that you are the town idiot, let me tell you the difference between drivel and dribble using your personal skills as an analogy..Drivel(driveling) is what you do when you spew your usual constant rubbish in this thread, while dribble (Dribbling) is what you do to JMM's balls after his Japanese boyfriend gets through with them..I wouldn't usually make this type of correction but I just couldn't resist seeing that this is your favorite word(aside from FACTS) and knowing how ******ed you are..This is funny..You cant even get your insults right.

                  YES !! That is EXACTLY what I am saying genius.

                  A catch-weight fight is rubbish. When you demand a catch-weight, you are admitting that you could not compete with that fighter at his natural weight.

                  Catch-weight fights are a joke, a worthless exhibition match.

                  Anybody who understands boxing is well-aware of that, you may not be.



                  Whitaker-Chavez was a joke? How about Langford-Walcot, Leonard-Lalonde. Catchweights are made to even the odds between the smaller fighter and the bigger fighter.. And in most cases, the bigger man wins, moron… Stop sayin’ you are boxing fan.. You are a JMM ****sVcker.. That’s all you really are..


                  Don't be so fkn absurd, you ridiculous excuse for a boxing fan.

                  The shot, weight-drained, shrink-wrapped, Hoya that weighed 145 two weeks before that fight, the same Hoya that weighed in at 145, and the same Hoya who weighed 145 on fight night..... was a fkn dried up zombie.


                  Problems comprehending I see.. I didn’t say that was a better win compared to Floyd's.. The DLH fight was worthless on both fighters resume if you look back on it in hindsight. DLH has not been significant since losing his fight to Hopkins.


                  Even Marquez would have knocked him out, so would any top welter, and so would most top JWW's.

                  If you don't know that, then you don't know **** about boxing, and you have almost certainly NEVER seen a prime Hoya fight.


                  Show me one fighter who moved up from LW to WW after only having one fight at LW..

                  JMM would have, could have but he didn’t. At least Pac did it.. Seriously, that’s what your argument has become.. Fights made out of fantasy.. Before Pac, every promoter, manager, handler would not dare have their fighters move up 2 divisions. Pac just showed them how it was done..



                  Clottey is a fkn joke, and your box standard Manny-fan adoration of Margarito, is just as ridiculous as your comments on Hoya.

                  cheato has NEVER been an elite fighter, or even close, and when he fought Manny for a JMW title, he could not have beaten any of the top welters.

                  That clown is Shane's b1tch, and you are Manny's.


                  If Clottey was a joke then so was Mitchell, JMM(at WW), Baldomir, and Judah. At least Clottey has been there with Cotto and Marg…

                  Moron, Marg was one of the top WW’s. Mosley moved up so high in the rankings because he beat Marg despite being mediocre in his last 4 fights before that. There’s a reason why Floyd retired in 2007, its because he was too scared to fight the top WW including Margarito..


                  The facts are not trivial you noob. A boxing legacy is SOLELY determined by who you fought, and when you fought them. That was a ridiculous thing to say.

                  Your box-standard assumption that Manny is god no matter who he fights, or who he ducks, or no matter what dodgy advantages that he has to manipulate..... makes you non-boxing Manny-fan's a laughing stock.


                  You moron, his legacy is already secured even if he didn’t move up to WW.. He already had fights at SFW/FW that would have secured his legacy as one of the ATG’s..

                  Besides you use the weight solely as an issue to trash on Pac without even assessing the fine details that surrounded those fights. You are only looking at the perspective on the opponent without even checkin’ that the odds do not always favor Pac. The DLH-Pac, Hatton-Pac, Cotto-Pac had odds that slightly favored Pac to win, which is why those will be remembered as one of his greatest wins because goin’ in, there was a 50/50 chance that he was goin’ to lose. And in the case of DLH, he was given non.


                  That’s how legacies are determine, moron. The competitiveness or perception of it before the fight takes place.. Hagler was no longer in his prime when Leonard fought him, and yet it will always be remembered as one of Leonard's greatest win. The same can be said for Ali in reference to Frazier after the “Thrilla in Manila”. So go suck on that..


                  I do not agree with your opinion, in fact, I'm not sure if I have EVER agreed with a single thing that you have said. You simply spout off fan-boy rhetoric, and your use of the words "facts" and "irrefutable" were hugely misplaced.

                  Your " facts " are inaccurate to say the least, and have been owned accordingly.


                  I have never used words like facts and irrefutable in any of my post in the same context as yours.. You even highlight your post as being FACTS. That’s why it amazes me that you would use such term on such one sided opinions the way you have done in the last 5 pages of this thread.. You are a fanboy that was bVtthurt when Pac defeated JMM. That’s all you are, and your post reflects that.

                  You might say the same for me, but at least I don’t hide behind the disguise of a knowledgeable boxing fan. I don’t claim it, and I don’t hide behind it. You on the other hand are a ****in hypocrite to even suggest that you are one…

                  Now go **** yourself..
                  Last edited by mikemurni; 02-19-2011, 08:41 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by mikemurni View Post
                    First, knowing that you are the town idiot, let me tell you the difference between drivel and dribble using your personal skills as an analogy..Drivel(driveling) is what you do when you spew your usual constant rubbish in this thread, while dribble (Dribbling) is what you do to JMM's balls after his Japanese boyfriend gets through with them..I wouldn't usually make this type of correction but I just couldn't resist seeing that this is your favorite word(aside from FACTS) and knowing how ******ed you are..This is funny..You cant even get your insults right.


                    Stop whining at me, you little b1tch.

                    That was rubbish, no boxing content at all.



                    Whitaker-Chavez was a joke? How about Langford-Walcot, Leonard-Lalonde. Catchweights are made to even the odds between the smaller fighter and the bigger fighter.. And in most cases, the bigger man wins, moron… Stop sayin’ you are boxing fan.. You are a JMM ****sVcker.. That’s all you really are.


                    Yes, you fkn idiot..... why do I always need to repeat myself with you ?

                    ******ed much ?

                    That was a good fight, but an exhibition match nonetheless, and should not have been for a title. Boxing uses weight divisions for a reason you clown.

                    Catch-weight's were originally conceived to enable exhibition match-up's between two opponents that would normally never meet because of weight disparity. A title fight should NEVER be held at catch-weight.

                    When you demand a catch-weight you are admitting that you could not compete with that fighter at his natural weight.

                    Imagine how poor wee pacroid would have fared fighting within the original divisions? You know absolutely nothing about boxing, and have the standards of a $5 whore.



                    Problems comprehending I see.. I didn’t say that was a better win compared to Floyd's.. The DLH fight was worthless on both fighters resume if you look back on it in hindsight. DLH has not been significant since losing his fight to Hopkins.


                    FACT: Mayflower beat a genuine JMW, and he beat a genuine champion.

                    Pacroid did NONE of those things.



                    Show me one fighter who moved up from LW to WW after only having one fight at LW..

                    JMM would have, could have but he didn’t. At least Pac did it.. Seriously, that’s what your argument has become.. Fights made out of fantasy.. Before Pac, every promoter, manager, handler would not dare have their fighters move up 2 divisions. Pac just showed them how it was done.. [/B]


                    That fight was a joke, a worthless exhibition match, like mentioned above.

                    You yourself even admitted that Oscar was drained.

                    Stop dropping your knickers every time someone flashes you $5



                    If Clottey was a joke then so was Mitchell, JMM(at WW), Baldomir, and Judah. At least Clottey has been there with Cotto and Marg…


                    Did you even watch that fight you moron ?

                    " JMM(at WW), Baldomir, and Judah " were MUCH better opponents than Clottey, because they actually fought back. There you go, you dropped your knickers again.

                    NOBODY should rate a win over ANY opponent, who performs so ineptly.

                    That was a truly bizarre series of events.

                    It doesn't surprise me at all that you didn't notice anything abnormal in that fight. YAYYYY Manny *waves flag*



                    Moron, Marg was one of the top WW’s. Mosley moved up so high in the rankings because he beat Marg despite being mediocre in his last 4 fights before that. There’s a reason why Floyd retired in 2007, its because he was too scared to fight the top WW including Margarito..


                    You are a fkn idiot. If Marg was a welter, then how can you possibly consider pacroid a genuine JMW champ?

                    Margarito was a slow, plodding, faded, shop-worn, mediocre, welterweight, BUM, with no KO power, who could not have beaten ANY of the top welter's, and who had just been KTFO by grandpa Mosley.



                    You moron, his legacy is already secured even if he didn’t move up to WW.. He already had fights at SFW/FW that would have secured his legacy as one of the ATG’s..


                    YOU ARE A BALL-SUCKING IDIOT !!

                    I hope somebody sigs that rubbish.



                    Besides you use the weight solely as an issue to trash on Pac without even assessing the fine details that surrounded those fights.


                    " fine details " ?

                    Kid, when you look at the " fine details ", there are question marks over every single Pacquiao fight dating back to before Marquez.

                    Don't believe me ?

                    Then check my reply to your other whiney post here.....
                    http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...1#post10128340

                    What are you on ?



                    You are only looking at the perspective on the opponent without even checkin’ that the odds do not always favor Pac.


                    STOP !!

                    A legacy is determined by two things, and nothing more.....
                    1.) who you fought
                    2.) when you fought them

                    Real fighters don't make whiney excuses



                    The DLH-Pac, Hatton-Pac, Cotto-Pac had odds that slightly favored Pac to win, which is why those will be remembered as one of his greatest wins


                    W H A T T H E F U K K I D ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

                    You think that even in spite of the fact that the odds "slightly favored Pac to win"..... "those fights will be remembered as "his greatest wins"

                    When Manny retires, what will you do ?



                    because goin’ in, there was a 50/50 chance that he was goin’ to lose. And in the case of DLH, he was given non.


                    Rubbish!! Manny was favorite in every single fight, and there are numerous questions marks over ALL of those three opponents.

                    It is a joke that you think Pac's 3 best career-defining fights are 2 catch-weights and a bum. LMAO



                    That’s how legacies are determine, moron.


                    Rubbish, you clown.

                    A legacy is determined by two things, and nothing more.....
                    1.) who you fought
                    2.) when you fought them

                    Real fighters don't make whiney excuses, demand catch-weight's, or refuse OST's.



                    The competitiveness or perception of it before the fight takes place.. Hagler was no longer in his prime when Leonard fought him, and yet it will always be remembered as one of Leonard's greatest win. The same can be said for Ali in reference to Frazier after the “Thrilla in Manila”. So go suck on that.


                    Bull**** !!

                    FACT: Those two fights were not Ali or Ray's best win's

                    FACT: Neither of those fights were career-defining

                    FACT: Even Marquez would have KTFO that version of Hoya, so would ALL of the top welter's, and so would MOST of the top JWW's.



                    I have never used words like facts and irrefutable in any of my post in the same context as yours.


                    Agree, you don't seem to use facts


                    You even highlight your post as being FACTS.


                    Inaccuracies are easy to refute.

                    The facts are what you are having a problem with right now.

                    "That’s why it amazes me that you would use such term on such one sided opinions the way you have done in the last 5 pages of this thread.. You are a fanboy that was bVtthurt when Pac defeated JMM. That’s all you are, and your post reflects that.

                    You might say the same for me, but at least I don’t hide behind the disguise of a knowledgeable boxing fan. I don’t claim it, and I don’t hide behind it. You on the other hand are a ****in hypocrite to even suggest that you are one. Now go **** yourself.
                    "

                    Correct, you certainly do not "hide behind the disguise of a knowledgeable boxing fan"..... that's why your post is in shred's.

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                    • floyd getting publicity, nothing new

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