If Hopkins beats Pascal, Dawson and Bute where does that place him p4p?

[edgarg]

If he defeats them all by the end of 2012, where does that place him on the P4P list and why?

In my opinion....NOWHERE. I don't have Hopkins anywhere near a top Lb4Lb list, and also, again, in my opinion the 3 guys being used here as measuring sticks would be average journeymen iin bygone years.

I have deliberatel;y stayed away from postibg for the past 5 months or so because i got so fed up with the huge amount of ignorance and unadulterated abuse and general crap being reprinted on these pages. Boxingscene, in my opinion, once the very best of all the boxing aites has degenerated until, on almost any given subject, we get about 80% dung and 20 % pure boxing comment. It has become a vehicle for disputes and rivalries which have nothing to do with boxing and are displayed in the vilest yerms of language and expression.


It's about time that the moderators took back the site and made it again what it used to be.

[sweetpea87]

#2 or maybe even #1

[ny123]

In my opinion....NOWHERE. I don't have Hopkins anywhere near a top Lb4Lb list, and also, again, in my opinion the 3 guys being used here as measuring sticks would be average journeymen iin bygone years.

I have deliberatel;y stayed away from postibg for the past 5 months or so because i got so fed up with the huge amount of ignorance and unadulterated abuse and general crap being reprinted on these pages. Boxingscene, in my opinion, once the very best of all the boxing aites has degenerated until, on almost any given subject, we get about 80% dung and 20 % pure boxing comment. It has become a vehicle for disputes and rivalries which have nothing to do with boxing and are displayed in the vilest yerms of language and expression.


It's about time that the moderators took back the site and made it again what it used to be.

[Canelo Phresh]

considering age and class of opponents id say top 15 in my opinion. but these lists are subjective. sorry thought it was an atg thing. p4p is a joke nowadays. floyds #2 and does nothing, mannys #1 and fights stiffs.

[ny123]

It really depends on what Pac,Mayweather,Martinez and Ward do but he would have to be at least top 5 with those kind of wins.

[Rip Chudd]

Forget P4P. He's already an ATG, the discussion would have to move to his place on the ATG list. Won't happen though, i've given up on Bhop in terms of when it comes to him fighting Dawson.

[Iceta Lives]

With the kind of opposition Pac has been fighting, it should put him at the #1 spot. But then again, I think Bute and Dawson are overrated too.

[Check]

I'd say he would surpass Roy Jones Jr. in atg status and cement his legacy as probably a top 40 fighter of all time. In my eyes if he accomplished all that at his age it would raise his stock from top 75-100 all time fighter to top 40. It would be very impressive.

[Iceta Lives]

I'd be more impressed if Hopkins beat Ward instead of those guys because I think he's better than both as much as people nag his style.

[Check]

I'd be more impressed if Hopkins beat Ward instead of those guys because I think he's better than both as much as people nag his style.

Already throwing in the towel on Dawson, Iceta? I still think he can be a good fighter. Needs to get his **** together though outside of the ring. He makes Winky Wright look like an active fighter.