Bernard Hopkins VS James Toney

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  • Evil Abed
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    #11
    Originally posted by Michael Hall
    B Hops also struggled with Antuwon Echols (to the point a rematch was needed). B Hops also lost TWICE to Jermain Taylor.

    The Mike MCcallum that Toney beat wipes his ass with Echols and Taylor.
    I think a prime Echols gives anyone issues. That guy could hit and had an iron chin.

    Taylor outworked Bhop in both fights.

    Toney never outworks you.

    He counters the **** out of you.

    It would definitely be a chess match.

    Its hard to determine when Bhop hit his prime.

    Tito Bhop? or Search and destroy Bhop who beat Glen Johnson?

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    • CumulousClouds
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      #12
      Originally posted by LarryX2011
      wouldve loved to see this fight at 175 ..both in great shape..2 defensive masters,great counter punchers..prime for prime hard decision
      Me too man, i wish this fight would've happen!
      Originally posted by Michael Hall
      This fight almost happened a few times. From my perception it seemed like Bernard was never too keen on this fight.
      With that said, I think Toney would have whooped him. Toney was as clever as they came. He could do it all.
      Really?Damn if only they had fought! Might of been a classic!
      Originally posted by Jimbo16031992
      Prime it's too close to call for me, now an easy win for B-Hop.
      Yeah, too close for me to call!

      Originally posted by McFearless
      In their primes Toney takes it I think
      right now even in heavy I think popkins takes it

      But the **** talking would be classic
      I can imagine someone getting slapped in the face off
      Haha who would cross the line and get slapped?

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        #13
        Originally posted by ThePhantom5
        I still got Bhop.

        Montell Griffin was very competive agaisnt Lights out(He got the wins but I thought Toney won)

        Bhop is a better on all levels than Griffin.

        Bhop also gave RJ a better fight than Toney did.
        I think that was a style issue and the second fight was controversial. And when you think about it, Griffin gave Jones (first fight) a much tougher time than Hopkins did so that could work both ways. Each had a style that could bother the other, this fight is a toss up.

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          #14
          Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
          I think that was a style issue and the second fight was controversial. And when you think about it, Griffin gave Jones (first fight) a much tougher time than Hopkins did so that could work both ways. Each had a style that could bother the other, this fight is a toss up.
          I agree. Very good point.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Michael Hall
            B Hops also struggled with Antuwon Echols (to the point a rematch was needed).
            Hopkins won 119-109 and 118-110 twice...

            In the second fight hopkins knocked him out.

            Not really struggling. The first fight was exciting to watch because it was foul filled, but one sided.

            B Hops also lost TWICE to Jermain Taylor.
            Hopkins was 40 years old at this time. Thought we're talking prime vs prime here.

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              #16
              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              Hopkins won 119-109 and 118-110 twice...

              In the second fight hopkins knocked him out.

              Not really struggling. The first fight was exciting to watch because it was foul filled, but one sided.



              Hopkins was 40 years old at this time. Thought we're talking prime vs prime here.
              Who you got?

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                #17
                Originally posted by CumulousClouds
                Who you got?
                Hopkins. I just don't see a prime hopkins losing to anyone really other than a a prime jones probably.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206
                  Hopkins won 119-109 and 118-110 twice...

                  In the second fight hopkins knocked him out.

                  Not really struggling. The first fight was exciting to watch because it was foul filled, but one sided.



                  Hopkins was 40 years old at this time. Thought we're talking prime vs prime here.
                  40 and clearly making 160 was killing him, he looked rejuvenated against Tarver.

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                  • CumulousClouds
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ИATAS206
                    Hopkins. I just don't see a prime hopkins losing to anyone really other than a a prime jones probably.
                    I gotcha!

                    You see a close fight? Or Hopkins schools toney?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by CumulousClouds
                      I gotcha!

                      You see a close fight? Or Hopkins schools toney?
                      I don't think it would be a schooling just because of their styles it would force a very tactical match hopkins by a few points.

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