Marciano's record

[Dagomba]

Ok guys I'm not in any way an erudite on older history of boxing and I have a question for you guys.

So I was talking to someone about fighters who retired undefeated and Marciano of course had to be a logical topic. However he told me that Marciano had one loss and I aknowledge Marcianos amateur loss to Coley and I was told his record was fixed by Fleischer so I assumed he was talking about Nat Fleischer. Again I'm not very knowledgable on the subject so I was wondering how much of that is true or if it's all bullshit.

[Akhi]

Yes it's true. He lost multiple times a professional but they were covered up.

I think it was 4-5 times. Let me find the list.

[jrosales13]

I remember reading somewhere that he fought under another name...Rocky Mack I think or something like that...

Legend has it I guess that he lost under that name...Whether it is true or not I really don't know cuz' it's mainly a rumor...

Put this in the history section...I'm pretty sure somebody there like Nchristo or TheGreatA will know more about it.

[Steak]

having an undefeated record has always been overrated.

beating Charlesx2, Walcottx2, LaStarza, Moore, Layne, ****ell, and Louis is his real legacy.

[Boxing Scene]

I found this searching for his amateur record.

1. April 15, 1946 Henry Lester DQ

AAU Championship Tournament
Portland, Oregon August, 1946

2. unknown KO 1
3. unknown KO 1
4. Joe DeAngelis L 3 August 23, 1946

Golden Gloves Tournament
Lowell, Massachusetts January 1948

5 unknown KO 1
6 unknown KO 1
7 Charlie Mortimer KO 1

Golden Gloves All-East Coast Championships
New York, New York March 1948

8. Coley Wallace L 3 March 1948

9. Bob Girard L 3
10. Joe Sidlaskis KO 1

AAU Olympic tryouts in Boston
11. Fred Fischera KO
12. George McGinnis W 3

[Boxing Scene]

Also this was found

Long after he became famous as heavyweight champion, fight fans from the New England area confused some of his amateur losses with his pro fights, going so far as to insist that he'd been beaten under the name of Rocky Mack. The confusion is understandable, considering how he mixed in that single pro fight under the name of Mack with his amateur fights. But the record is clear on who he fought as Rocky Mack and who won the fight. Nat Fleischer investigated the fight record of Marciano and had no doubt that all his pro fights were on record and all were victories. Likewise, the losses he suffered as an amateur were all in sanctioned amateur tournaments, dispelling any su****ion that they were really pro fights.

[Dagomba]

Thanks for the input guys. I'll post this on the history section as suggested by jrosales.

[Dagomba]

Also this was found

Thanks again.

[THe TRiNiTY]

From the legend I've heard, he fought as an amatuer for several years before turning professional. His mother didn't want him to fight, so in an effort to keep it a secret, he boxed under the name, Rocky Mack.

One of his amatuer bouts was considered a professional bout, however he continued to fight as an amateur. He lost amateur bouts after that "professional" bout and then went on to officially turn professional after another series of amateur bouts.

This is what I've pieced together over the years. If you check out his BoxRec.. you'll see that he debuted with the Rocky Mack moniker and then had a year long hiatus. Which is weird for a young fighter TODAY, let alone 50 plus years ago. Then, after his second professional bout, he fought monthly.

It's within this timeframe that he lost those amateur bouts. However, they were three rounders and Rocky wasn't a sprinter. He was a guy that fought professional-length fights.