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  • #51
    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
    And that jro is the real difference between Mayweather and Manny. Floyd KNEW Bob was screwing him and wanted out. Manny maybe he doesn't know or care.
    I don't know if Arum screwed Floyd or not...That is a lot of he said/she said scenario...Just because Floyd says it doesn't make it true, and just because Arum says he didn't doesn't make it true. Is just he said/she said.

    But, the fact is Floyd wanted to fight Oscar. That was the golden ticket. At that time there was the cold war just like now between Top rank and Golden boy. They were not going to work together which meant that Floyd would not have gotten the Oscar fight. So he left top rank to get the fight he wanted.

    If Pac really wants the fight he can do the same as Floyd and leave Arum. But, he probably doesn't want the fight is all to happy with how things are going. And, even maybe using as a scape goat. Because, people hate Arum so much that they would blame Arum for a so and so fight not happening then to blame Pac himself...And, that could be the reason why he would never leave Arum.

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    • #52
      BULL****

      Berto has to lose by KO first.....

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      • #53
        Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
        And, if those 2 don't go with Top rank what is Pac next move?
        Yeah, don't think you should be worrying about Manny's next move since everyone from 135-160 wants to hop on his bandwagon. Real question is what would be those 2 guys' next move if they don't get on the Top Rank Express? My guess is Bradley will chase a Khan fight that won't materialize and then maybe end up fighting Maidana on HBO after dark in a half-empty 2,000 seat Indian Casino and Berto will continue to fight Pizza deliverymen or your local dry cleaner... but at least HBO will pay him handsomely for it.

        Seems like the choice is easy, no? Mosley knew it, Marquez is coming around, Bradley will definitely jump, but Andre's the wildcard... he's content to pick on 140-lbers and bums, as long as the check is right.
        Last edited by ThePrince; 02-09-2011, 01:57 PM.

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        • #54
          Arum is too much of a ***** to take this risk.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            That is neither here nor there. The fact is that Pac didn't tell Mosley no after the fail negotiations with Floyd happen to fight Clottey. Mosley had a signed fight with Berto. Mosley was not available at the time. Now he told Mosley no to fight Cotto instead. But, he didn't tell Mosley no to fight Clottey... That just didn't happen.
            and we both know if Pac wanted Mosley EVEN if Mosley was under a signed contract with Berto Shane would have taken it, even if it meant he was breaching contract....

            Signed or not Team Pac didn't want Mosley until now/ mid 2011. Just like they didn't want Berto or Mayweather in the past let alone JMM III.

            Who all would bring more money/Hype than Clottey. Bob could have made it happen but BOB has agenda.
            Last edited by WESS; 02-09-2011, 01:54 PM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
              If Mosley beat floyd you HONESTLY think Pac is fighting him?
              *****s love hypothetical situations...

              FAO *****s: hypothetical situations don't prove anything

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              • #57
                Originally posted by WESS View Post
                and we both know if Pac wanted Mosley EVEN if Mosley was under a signed contract with Berto. Shane would have taken it even if it meant he was breaching contract....

                Signed or not Team Pac didn't want Mosley until now/ mid 2011. Just like they didn't want Berto or Mayweather in the past let alone JMM III.

                Who all would bring more money/Hype than Clottey. Bob could have made it happen but BOB has agenda.
                You're borderline dumb. I don't even know why even discuss boxing with you.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                  Shane said no to floyd because he would have got his a$$ whipped for no money because only diehard boxing fans knew who floyd was then. As soon as floyd was making his opponents millionaires, sweet a$$ shane pops isht about wanting to fight.
                  In regards Mayweather wanting to fight Shane Mosley some years back......

                  With the win (Henry Bruseles), Mayweather sets up a proposed June bout with WBC champion Arturo Gatti, assuming Gatti gets past James Leija next weekend. Mayweather, however, seems to be looking to bigger and better things.

                  "I'm told that [Shane] Mosley and [Oscar] De La Hoya are going to 147," Mayweather said. "I plan to join them there."
                  Could have sworn Jin when she was Mosley manager didn't want to put Shane in the ring with Floyd.

                  A trainer (Freddie Roach) telling a fighter (Mosley) looking to challenge his fighter (Pac) to a fight and the trainer (Freddie Roach) tells the fighter (Mosley) that he is too good to fight his fighter (Pac) is considered an official duck. Manny is supposed to be the P4P#1 fighter in the sport and yet his trainer Freddie Roach said that Shane Mosley was too good to fight Manny Pacquiao? How can people even ignore that?
                  Last edited by GRUSTLER; 02-09-2011, 02:02 PM. Reason: Added Text.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    I don't know if Arum screwed Floyd or not...That is a lot of he said/she said scenario...Just because Floyd says it doesn't make it true, and just because Arum says he didn't doesn't make it true. Is just he said/she said.

                    But, the fact is Floyd wanted to fight Oscar. That was the golden ticket. At that time there was the cold war just like now between Top rank and Golden boy. They were not going to work together which meant that Floyd would not have gotten the Oscar fight. So he left top rank to get the fight he wanted.

                    If Pac really wants the fight he can do the same as Floyd and leave Arum. But, he probably doesn't want the fight is all to happy with how things are going. And, even maybe using as a scape goat. Because, people hate Arum so much that they would blame Arum for a so and so fight not happening then to blame Pac himself...And, that could be the reason why he would never leave Arum.
                    Bob has admitted to cheating floyd out of ppv money, he just doesn't know the exact amount. The cold war wasn't as bad then. Bob told floyd he couldn't get him $10 mil for cotto or $20 mil for ODH. SO floyd bounced because he knew what he wanted.

                    Manny doesn't seem to know what he wants, except he wants to be paid like floyd but not fight him.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      You're borderline dumb. I don't even know why even discuss boxing with you.
                      Are you mad that Bob has agenda and gets what he wants?

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