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  • figzuki
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    #41
    Originally posted by LeadUppercut
    Elie rulz bro, I'm sure he could make that fight
    lol I like elie bro haha

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    • figzuki
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      #42
      Originally posted by xcaret v3
      you got owned bit**.. how the *** would you know mickey garcia didnt want to get in the negotiations wow your ***en ******!
      umm no, ur ******.

      I believe Eaner knows them, but he clearly stated AFTER Garcia's next fight, so what the hell makes u think Juanma didnt want to fight him now u troll??!!! If they never even talked for it? for APRIL 16...

      so like i said, STFU & GTFOH!!!

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      • lopez36
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        #43
        Originally posted by figzuki
        You're right, Cazares is even BIGGER and isn't he fighting like at 118 now or something?

        Peopel say he's a ***** and he runs, but he has no power whatsoever and what do they expect to just stand there and **** with much bigger guys all the time? he has to move, tag, move.....
        i agree,i have always thought since he was/is too small,like 5 foot,he shouldn't have to trade,but it's different to box and run,he runs a lot,holds too,you can be a good counter puncher and have good defense without all that running,but yeah most of the guys he faced in the past were always bigger,so this loss shouldn't have anything to do with size,i just think all that non stop punching and especially to the body is what made calderon give up,let's see what he does differently to keep segura off of him,i think he'll have to be in very,very good condition to stay away from him for the entire 12 rounds because we know segura will be on him from round one and for calderon to keep him off of him he'll be constantly moving for the entire fight,all 3 minutes,thats hard

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        • figzuki
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          #44
          Originally posted by lopez36
          i agree,i have always thought since he was/is too small,like 5 foot,he shouldn't have to trade,but it's different to box and run,he runs a lot,holds too,you can be a good counter puncher and have good defense without all that running,but yeah most of the guys he faced in the past were always bigger,so this loss shouldn't have anything to do with size,i just think all that non stop punching and especially to the body is what made calderon give up,let's see what he does differently to keep segura off of him,i think he'll have to be in very,very good condition to stay away from him for the entire 12 rounds because we know segura will be on him from round one and for calderon to keep him off of him he'll be constantly moving for the entire fight,all 3 minutes,thats hard
          oh yea I agree, IMO I just think it'll be too hard for him, Size, Skill, Youth of Segura I think is wayy too much for my little man...

          I'm just glad that he beat Cazares cuz he has a big mouth, I didnt mind the Segura loss that much though cuz he seems humble and a good guy...

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          • LeadUppercut
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            #45
            Originally posted by lopez36
            i agree,i have always thought since he was/is too small,like 5 foot,he shouldn't have to trade,but it's different to box and run,he runs a lot,holds too,you can be a good counter puncher and have good defense without all that running,but yeah most of the guys he faced in the past were always bigger,so this loss shouldn't have anything to do with size,i just think all that non stop punching and especially to the body is what made calderon give up,let's see what he does differently to keep segura off of him,i think he'll have to be in very,very good condition to stay away from him for the entire 12 rounds because we know segura will be on him from round one and for calderon to keep him off of him he'll be constantly moving for the entire fight,all 3 minutes,thats hard
            The bold is the key.

            They have both had a good look at each other now. Now they both know what the other guy brings to the table, and Ivan knows how deep he is going to have to dig, in order to overcome Segura.

            He has got to find a way to get to Segura.

            Originally posted by figzuki
            oh yea I agree, IMO I just think it'll be too hard for him, Size, Skill, Youth of Segura I think is wayy too much for my little man...

            I'm just glad that he beat Cazares cuz he has a big mouth, I didnt mind the Segura loss that much though cuz he seems humble and a good guy...
            Segura looked fantastic. He seems to have a huge future in front of him.

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            • theplayerpimp
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              #46
              Originally posted by LeadUppercut
              The bold is the key.

              They have both had a good look at each other now. Now they both know what the other guy brings to the table, and Ivan knows how deep he is going to have to dig, in order to overcome Segura.

              He has got to find a way to get to Segura.



              Segura looked fantastic. He seems to have a huge future in front of him.
              There is nothing he could do. Seguradoesnt not respect his power and will just move in for the kill even faster. Calderon could run but he cant hide and segura will find him again to the body like he did the first time.

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              • figzuki
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                #47
                Originally posted by theplayerpimp
                There is nothing he could do. Seguradoesnt not respect his power and will just move in for the kill even faster. Calderon could run but he cant hide and segura will find him again to the body like he did the first time.
                Theres nothing to repect power wise cuz Calderon has none lol, but I respect the opinion, its legit....

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                • RIZO24
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                  #48
                  I got 10 million on Segura over Calderon!!!Who wants it!!

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                  • theplayerpimp
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by figzuki
                    Theres nothing to repect power wise cuz Calderon has none lol, but I respect the opinion, its legit....
                    Thats my point while segura has tons of it.

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                    • LeadUppercut
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by theplayerpimp
                      There is nothing he could do. Seguradoesnt not respect his power and will just move in for the kill even faster. Calderon could run but he cant hide and segura will find him again to the body like he did the first time.
                      Calderon needs to stay off the ropes, keep moving, and keep punching.

                      But just as important, he needs to somehow make Segura pay for his mistakes.

                      Power has never been a prerequisite to winning a boxing match, but as you pointed out, you must have enough power to stop your opponent from walking through your punches.

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