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what fighters from 147-160 could beat sergio??
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Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View PostAgree with Kirkland, he's far too aggressive and one of Martinez's counter right hooks is gonna put him away.
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Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Postif any??who would you choose??
154lbs - Kirkland...let Kirkland get back into fighting shape and this would be PPV worthy
160lbs - Nobody really...but I would love to see a focused Pavlik get a rematch.
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Originally posted by Rocky Rode View PostAm I the only one that's high on Kirkland? I don't think a pure boxer can take out Martinez. I think it's going to take a guy who will press the action. Someone who's willing to cut off the ring. Martinez likes to fight in spots and I think a guy like Kirkland will make Martinez extremely uncomfortable. Also, unlike Paul Williams, Kirkland is a lot shorter and will be able to punch with Martinez when the fight goes to the inside.
I'm from the same area as he is, and one of my brother's best friends actually fought Kirkland (got KO'd in 1 round). Not only that, but I guy I'm going to start training with, worked with Kirkland a lot and we both agreed on one thing.......As soon as he steps up and faces someone with great offense he will be beaten. I feel he will actually get KO'd, but the issue that most people criticize him on is that he gets too focused on offense and completely disregards his defense.
It kinda shows up if you look at his pro fights, but if you followed him in the amateur ranks, he pulls that Ricardo Mayorga b.s. putting his chin out and egging guys to land flush on him. Hell I've seen him let several fighters land combinations on him and while he chilled somewhat as a pro....that alone lets me know he has too much confidence in his chin.
Dude is a KO waiting to happen, and the sad part is he is a really good boxer, but you would never know because he has yet to show it as a pro (dude just believes he can walk through his opponents terminator style and KO anyone).
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Originally posted by TuRoK'em View Postangulo is a bad matchup for him imo
Now to answer TS....
I think Mayweather and Margarito are the only two fighters within the range you specified who can beat Sergio.
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Originally posted by Rocky Rode View PostAm I the only one that's high on Kirkland? I don't think a pure boxer can take out Martinez. I think it's going to take a guy who will press the action. Someone who's willing to cut off the ring. Martinez likes to fight in spots and I think a guy like Kirkland will make Martinez extremely uncomfortable. Also, unlike Paul Williams, Kirkland is a lot shorter and will be able to punch with Martinez when the fight goes to the inside.
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Originally posted by -Top Rank- View PostYou know a lot of people actual lie and say they have been following fighters longer than they really have, but truthfully.....I've been following Kirkland since he was 16-17 years old.
I'm from the same area as he is, and one of my brother's best friends actually fought Kirkland (got KO'd in 1 round). Not only that, but I guy I'm going to start training with, worked with Kirkland a lot and we both agreed on one thing.......As soon as he steps up and faces someone with great offense he will be beaten. I feel he will actually get KO'd, but the issue that most people criticize him on is that he gets too focused on offense and completely disregards his defense.
It kinda shows up if you look at his pro fights, but if you followed him in the amateur ranks, he pulls that Ricardo Mayorga b.s. putting his chin out and egging guys to land flush on him. Hell I've seen him let several fighters land combinations on him and while he chilled somewhat as a pro....that alone lets me know he has too much confidence in his chin.
Dude is a KO waiting to happen, and the sad part is he is a really good boxer, but you would never know because he has yet to show it as a pro (dude just believes he can walk through his opponents terminator style and KO anyone).
Granted, I haven't been following Kirkland as long as you, and he just might get KO'd by Martinez. But from what I have seen, I think he has the tools to beat Martinez.
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Originally posted by Dro-Town View PostThis is precisely why I think Margarito can beat Martinez...well he did it once already, but I mean now.
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Originally posted by Rocky Rode View PostSergio Martinez is kind of the same way though. I know he doesn't stick his chin out, but he is constantly off balance and his defense isn't really that good. He is very prone to Knockdowns. He relies so much on his speed to get out of the way of punches...But I think a guy with an agressive style and good handspeed will be able to beat him.
Granted, I haven't been following Kirkland as long as you, and he just might get KO'd by Martinez. But from what I have seen, I think he has the tools to beat Martinez.
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