Comments Thread For: Bradley: Pacquiao is Being Fed Stiffs, I Can Beat Him!

[HandSpeed303]

A good read on the double standards of Floyd and Manny (since someone wanted to bring up Floyd...
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Written by Mr. BoxingToday Friday, 04 February 2011 18:22
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manny pacquiao vs floyd mayweather jrThe fight that the world wants to see is Mayweather vs Pacquiao. The question is will it ever happen? Some believe that there is entirely too much money at stake to forgo this mega fight. It's been documented that the Mayweather camp believes that Pacquiao is using performance enhancing drugs and his refusal to take the olympic style testing backs their claims. Floyd Mayweather himself has said in recent youtube clips that Pacquaio is on "power pellets", in other words steroids.

The reason they believe this is because of the newly found energy,stamina and punch resistance Manny has exhibited against De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Margarito. A lot fans and boxing insiders believe that Manny is just a natural athlete who has dedicated his life to his craft. Did you notice anything unnatural about his last five fights? I certainly didn't, but it's not about what you or I think.

Until Manny decides to take the test Floyd will never share the ring with him.

What if the scenario was reversed and it was Floyd who didn't want to take the test? No need to ponder an answer. He would be getting treated the same way he is now for asking Manny to take the test. See, that's where the double standard comes in to play. Somewhere in the mist of the Pacman destroying his last five opponents Floyd has lost the respect of many fans. But somehow Manny is excused for fighting the Mayweather left overs. The same guys some of you cursed Floyd for facing. Somehow it's ok for Manny to fight Oscar,Hatton, Marquez and Mosley. Besides the De La Hoya victory, Floyd was given no credit but excuses like "he's over the hill" or my personal favorite "he was too small". Then why aren't these same fighters too small for Pacquiao? Is the double standard do to race?

Why doesn't the media ever talk about the statements that Murad Muhammed said about Manny being "built" up. If anyone outside the Pacquiao camp knows whats going on it's ex-promoter Murad. Murad stated he made sure Manny fought no top level african American fighters when he came to America. It has been proven in many sports like the NFL and the NBA that to be considered the best you have to compete against African American athletes. Manny will finally fight an African American, enter Pomona, California native Shane Mosley. I guess a 38 year old shopworn and most importantly free agent Mosley is the perfect foe. Shane has been chasing this fight since last year when he said he would drop down to 142 pounds to fight Pacquiao.

Either way it goes once Manny beats Shane he will be awarded status as the people champ when Floyd already beat the will out Mosley last May of 2010. I have came to the conclusion that no matter who Mayweather beats it won't be enough to satisfy the most media and fans. Im not claiming Floyd to be the best ever but he is certainly an all time great fighter. Ray Leonard dodged a fight with Marvin Hagler for five years. Yet he is considered an all time legend which he certainly is. Mike Tyson dodged a fight with George Foreman in 1990 and did the same with Lennox Lewis in 1996 for a reported 40 million dollars, yet only Floyd gets blasted for "ducking". I don't hear anyone calling Tyson a ducker. What about Oscar "ducking" the rematch with Trinidad? Is he a ducker? Floyd wants Manny to take the test, is that too much to ask or is it a double standard?

The only reason I brought up Floyd is, If you want to pick apart fighters resumes, and see fights where fighters did not deserve the fight, you could do it with any fighter.

That was my point.

[damned1974]

No, he wouldn't.



It would be nice. I would prefer it if it was at 140



If he can get on the inside against Khan. Then Bradley will beat him. I favor Bradley>Khan.



Good post.



I disagree, I think Bradley could beat a 145 Cotto. I know Clottey gave Cotto hell so I'm confident Bradley could do the same and do better.

Clottey is a natural born loser, a good loser, he's not a winner, he finds a way the lose, he can only beat average prospects, shot fighters, and bigger mental midgets like he is in Judah. Bradley is a winner, when faced with adversity he will find a way to win. Clottey can't do that. Bradley beats him.

Marg at 150. That is the only one that I might edge somebody in beating Bradley. Just because of the size different and Bradley wouldn't have the power nor speed to really get Marg respects.

And, I think Bradley beats a very old Mosley.



Oh I agree, he will not dominate Pac. That is just silly thinking whoever believes that. I'm pretty confident Pac beats him. But, I'm also confident that Bradley will give Pac the most trouble since JMM.



I don't think it will be an easy KO. And, again if Clottey gave Cotto hell. Then Bradley can beat Cotto at 145.



I agree that Pac should fight Berto also. But, I disagree with Berto being more competitive. Berto gets KO'd in 5 rounds. Bradley would Pac fits.

I believe Pac beats Bradley (original,eh?) but I also agree there is something in Bradley's style that can give most fighters problems (good foot movement, hand speed,upper body movement,defense, inside fighter, good boxing skills, rough, determined, etc).

Now whether Bradley is more competitive than Berto-who knows.I tend to think Berto is more flawed.He doesn't have any head movement,poor defense, and he is flat footed.He does possess good power and hand speed though and has had success against southpaws in recent bouts.

[Cdr. Shepard]

Currently (IMO):
Timmy Bradley SD Juan Manuel Marquez
Timmy Bradley UD David Diaz
Oscar De La Hoya KO9 Timmy Bradley
Timmy Bradley UD Ricky Hatton
Miguel Cotto KO6 Timmy Bradley
Joshua Clottey KO11 Timmy Bradley
Antonio Margarito KO3 Timmy Bradley

[Tweezy316]

Who said that? Is that what you really think?

I was being sarcastic! I'm just putting an emphasis on the horrible decision it was to fight clottey instead of working out the fight with Mayweather.

[-Lowkey-]

It just does. Tims got more heart than any fighter in the world. Heart is underrated and is one of the reasons he's once of the best fighters in the world despite his limitations. He would dig in and figure a way to beat Manny, he always does.

There’s a big difference between finding ways to win against average and untested opponents such as Alexander, Abregu and Holt and finding a way to win against the no1 P4P fighter in the world.

And to say Bradley has more heart than any other fighter in the world is a silly claim for one having heart is intangible it is impossible to accurately gauge for the most part.

Pac has never shown himself to lack in the heart department either.

[HandSpeed303]

I was being sarcastic! I'm just putting an emphasis on the horrible decision it was to fight clottey instead of working out the fight with Mayweather.

I know what were doing...

I thought you might have been poking fun at my statements earlier in the topic.

[damned1974]

Currently (IMO):
Timmy Bradley SD Juan Manuel Marquez
Timmy Bradley UD David Diaz
Oscar De La Hoya KO9 Timmy Bradley
Timmy Bradley UD Ricky Hatton
Miguel Cotto KO6 Timmy Bradley
Joshua Clottey KO11 Timmy Bradley
Antonio Margarito KO3 Timmy Bradley

I actually think Bradley has a tougher fight with Marquez than that weight drained Oscar....How is Tony gonna ko anyone in 3 rounds without his loaded weapons?

[Tweezy316]

I believe Pac beats Bradley (original,eh?) but I also agree there is something in Bradley's style that can give most fighters problems (good foot movement, hand speed,upper body movement,defense, inside fighter, good boxing skills, rough, determined, etc).

Now whether Bradley is more competitive than Berto-who knows.I tend to think Berto is more flawed.He doesn't have any head movement,poor defense, and he is flat footed.He does possess good power and hand speed though and has had success against southpaws in recent bouts.

I know Berto and Bradley fought in the amateurs and I'm pretty sure Berto won. I don't know how it would go now in the pros but I'd put my money on Berto. I don't wanna talk about Berto's defense or Bradley's defense because Pac has no defense only speed and power and it works against slower opponents. But Berto has speed and power too and he's a lot bigger than Pac. I would put money on Berto over Pac. It only takes one shot to change a fight. And when Pac gets caught he'll go on the ropes or throw his hands up in the air and with a speedy fighter that can be lights out. When Floyd got caught by Mosley is grabbed and stayed in his face so Mosley couldn't load up and finish him off. Floyd has great ring IQ Pac does not. I'd love for Arum to make Pac-Berto I'd put a lot of money on Berto and make a fortune. And if not I'd just be happy that Pac actually fought someone in their prime who's got just as much speed and power as he does.

[Tweezy316]

There’s a big difference between finding ways to win against average and untested opponents such as Alexander, Abregu and Holt and finding a way to win against the no1 P4P fighter in the world.

And to say Bradley has more heart than any other fighter in the world is a silly claim for one having heart is intangible it is impossible to accurately gauge for the most part.

Pac has never shown himself to lack in the heart department either.

You can't really guage heart but are you saying we can accurately gauge p4p status and that it's not clearly oppinionated?

[KTFO]

De la hoya, Hatton, Cotto and Margarito win by KO: Bradley does not have the size/power to hold these big hitters off. Marquez and Clottey win by decision: Jmm is superior in technical skills and Clottey would let his hands go a little more because of reasons stated above. I'll give little Timmy D.Diaz, Barrera and Morales at 140. Bradley gets KTFO agains Pacman!