Comments Thread For: R. Mayweather: I Know Pacquiao Has Something in Him!

[IMDAZED]

That is your point because supposedly that test is RANDOM no cut-off but when the dates of blood test revealed it has 18 days gap prior to the fight. Since it was done by USADA and supposedly more credible than the standard test as what Mayweather claiming then the same can be applied on Manny vs Mayweather future fight. There is no need for common sense to that. No link I or you can provide to dispute reality of the USADA procedure and I guess you can't argue about that.

Mayweather demand RANDOM test on his fight vs Mosley
Reality check.
RANDOM test done on Mayweather vs Mosley has 18 days gap=ok
Manny counter offer of RANDOM test with 14 days gap=Manny is on PED?
I ask again in testing PED, longer gap is more accurate?

I think if the boxers juiced on or within 18days before the fight it will still be detected since their is one last test directly after the fight. If you disagree about that then you are questioning USADA's procedure tantamount to disagree on RANDOM test after all.

People can't see the difference on Mosley vs Mayweather fight random test.
It has 18 days gap prior to the fight while random test demand on Manny vs Floyd negotiations is test all the way to the day of the fight.

Additional readings
Manny Pacquiao vs Travis Tygart – Blood Testing Gate
http://www.nowboxing.com/2010/06/man...ng-gate/11616/

You sound laughably bad. See my previous post. Hopefully you get it some day but I'm growing pessimistic.

[Doctor_Tenma]

That is your point because supposedly that test is RANDOM no cut-off but when the dates of blood test revealed it has 18 days gap prior to the fight. Since it was done by USADA and supposedly more credible than the standard test as what Mayweather claiming then the same can be applied on Manny vs Mayweather future fight. There is no need for common sense to that. No link I or you can provide to dispute reality of the USADA procedure and I guess you can't argue about that.

Mayweather demand RANDOM test on his fight vs Mosley
Reality check.
RANDOM test done on Mayweather vs Mosley has 18 days gap=ok
Manny counter offer of RANDOM test with 14 days gap=Manny is on PED?
I ask again in testing PED, longer gap is more accurate?

I think if the boxers juiced on or within 18days before the fight it will still be detected since their is one last test directly after the fight. If you disagree about that then you are questioning USADA's procedure tantamount to disagree on RANDOM test after all.

People can't see the difference on Mosley vs Mayweather fight random test.
It has 18 days gap prior to the fight while random test demand on Manny vs Floyd negotiations is test all the way to the day of the fight.

Additional readings
Manny Pacquiao vs Travis Tygart – Blood Testing Gate
http://www.nowboxing.com/2010/06/man...ng-gate/11616/

My GOD...

Mayweather nor Mosley knew they would be tested within those 18 days, where as Pacquiao would know if he was given a 14 day cutoff.

[LeadUppercut]

Please shut up. If you don't know the difference between knowing when you will be tested and not knowing I can't help you. There is no link for common sense.

What doesn't that guy get about random ?

There was no " 18-day cutoff ".

Even if they didn't actually physically test within a month of that fight, the threat that they could/might test, makes it random.

Why would any fighter moan about that ?

The fact that they " could " have been tested provided the assurance, and the fact that they weren't tested provides convenience.

Next time, there could be a test at anytime, and one day prior to the fight.

[LeadUppercut]

You sound laughably bad. See my previous post. Hopefully you get it some day but I'm growing pessimistic.

He's whining about inane dribble even worse than that ADP02 guy.

Stop whining pac-whores, OST's are harmless.

This conversation subject is a joke.

It must feel insulting that way that Manny has left his fan's to attempt to defend his OST ducking with that ridiculously whiney dribble.

Take the fkn tests Pac, just like anyone else would

[PandaKilla]

So Pac said he would take the tests up to 5 days. HMMM SEEMS LIKE TEAM mAYWEATHER WERE LYING BEFORE.

[AeKhuban]

My GOD...

Mayweather nor Mosley knew they would be tested within those 18 days, where as Pacquiao would know if he was given a 14 day cutoff.

Even Mayweather nor Mosley or Pacquiao knew if he was given 14 day cut off will not attempt to juice. Why? The use of blood is more accurate than urine because supposedly PED stay remains on blood longer than urine.

USADA's test result is clean after 18days on both Mosley and Mayweather.
Even Manny or any other boxers attempt to juice within that 18 days gap will be caught because blood test is also done directly after the fight. You see it is correct that using blood is accurate but there are factors we have to understand. Urine don't stay on your body unlike blood. Juice in your blood will stay longer because your blood run around in your body.

"USADA’s Travis Tygart said the initial blood tests shown both boxers were clean and they didn’t need any further blood test. The rest of the random test would be done through urine testing. However, Travis Tygart did mention if some anomaly suddenly appeared in one of the blood test, they would get another sample. But the test didn’t uncover anything that could be questionable so they decided to end the blood test."

http://www.nowboxing.com/2010/06/manny-pacquiao-vs-travis-tygart-blood-testing-gate/11616/

[The Noose]

Even Mayweather nor Mosley or Pacquiao knew if he was given 14 day cut off will not attempt to juice. Why? The use of blood is more accurate than urine because supposedly PED stay remains on blood longer than urine.

USADA's test result is clean after 18days on both Mosley and Mayweather.
Even Manny or any other boxers attempt to juice within that 18 days gap will be caught because blood test is also done directly after the fight. You see it is correct that using blood is accurate but there are factors we have to understand. Urine don't stay on your body unlike blood. Juice in your blood will stay longer because your blood run around in your body.

"USADA’s Travis Tygart said the initial blood tests shown both boxers were clean and they didn’t need any further blood test. The rest of the random test would be done through urine testing. However, Travis Tygart did mention if some anomaly suddenly appeared in one of the blood test, they would get another sample. But the test didn’t uncover anything that could be questionable so they decided to end the blood test."
http://www.nowboxing.com/2010/06/man...ng-gate/11616/

I think the point is to stop anyone from fighting on PED's. A test after the fight may show he has used PED's in the lead up to the fight, which would give him an advantage. And thats what the trouble is.

Pac KO's Floyd, but is caught after the fight. The fight was unfair.

If Pac gets tested before the fight, the fight would be fair.

[bartolomewj]

What doesn't that guy get about random ?

There was no " 18-day cutoff ".

Even if they didn't actually physically test within a month of that fight, the threat that they could/might test, makes it random.

Why would any fighter moan about that ?

The fact that they " could " have been tested provided the assurance, and the fact that they weren't tested provides convenience.

Next time, there could be a test at anytime, and one day prior to the fight.

The argument about randomness rest solely on the fact that you might be tested at any time up to fight night. It does not guarantee that the testing will be fair or equal. There was one point in Floyd/Shane where Mosley was tested more than Floyd. And that may happen against Pac.

Plainly, the USADA dropped the ball by cutting off early (18 days) and there was a huge need to test up to the day of the fight considering that Shane was an admitted user. Floyd also hired the the testers raising the issue of bias. In fact there was on 24/7 an episode where Floyd took more than 1 hour to pe.e. Could it be because the testers were deferring to him, could be, he employed those testers.

But Pac has considerably shortened that cutoff to 5 days now. Assuming that what Ariza said (7 days) is the official timeline, it's still much shorter than 18, ya? And Floyd would not compromise on the cutoff, because he needs to win the pi.ss.ing contest than man up and fight.

Pac works towards making the fight and Floyd would rather have the hiway if he cannot have it his way................

The idea of randomness is that testing may happen anytime, just like the end of the world may happen anytime. When, who knows, but it may happen.

[LeadUppercut]

Even Mayweather nor Mosley or Pacquiao knew if he was given 14 day cut off will not attempt to juice. Why? The use of blood is more accurate than urine because supposedly PED stay remains on blood longer than urine.

USADA's test result is clean after 18days on both Mosley and Mayweather.
Even Manny or any other boxers attempt to juice within that 18 days gap will be caught because blood test is also done directly after the fight. You see it is correct that using blood is accurate but there are factors we have to understand. Urine don't stay on your body unlike blood. Juice in your blood will stay longer because your blood run around in your body.

"USADA’s Travis Tygart said the initial blood tests shown both boxers were clean and they didn’t need any further blood test. The rest of the random test would be done through urine testing. However, Travis Tygart did mention if some anomaly suddenly appeared in one of the blood test, they would get another sample. But the test didn’t uncover anything that could be questionable so they decided to end the blood test."
http://www.nowboxing.com/2010/06/man...ng-gate/11616/

So..... the 14-day cutoff that Pac rejected should have been no problem ?

[The Noose]

I think Pac should take tests in his next fight, and see if he feels weakened. I dont think he is on PED's, but id like to see him suck it up and force himself to take random tests.

He seems to be basing his belief that testing wil weaken him on his last loss to Morales.