Is it ducking if you acknowledge that you're too green for a certain fighter?

[SUPREME.]

For example, Andre Berto said he is too green for Manny Pacquiao, and he would like to fight Mosley, Cotto, then maybe he would be ready for Manny then.

Would you consider that ducking?

If not what is your definition of ducking a fighter?

[武士道]

He’s being honest, if he fought Pacquiao today; he’d be dismantled and destroyed.

Ducking is what you’ve seen Floyd do for the past few years. Vacations/MIA etc.

[SUPREME.]

He’s being honest, if he fought Pacquiao today; he’d be dismantled and destroyed.

Ducking is what you’ve seen Floyd do for the past few years. Vacations/MIA etc.

On a off topic note, your avatar is freaky as ****.

Where's it from?

[Steak]

depends.

if youre simply a prospect and dont hold a title, its not ducking.

If you hold a world title and think youre too green, then you shouldnt have pretended to be a 'world champ' in the first place. in that case, you are ducking top competition that you have an obligation to face.

[Spray_resistant]

Yes and in a very up front way where you are just saying I am not good enough right now for this fighter who would beat me like his step son.

[SUPREME.]

I still don't understand the difference.

If i'm a prospect and I think Manny could beat me, and i'm Mayweather and I think Manny could beat me, how is it different? (hypothetically speaking)

Both think Manny could beat them so they decide they don't dont to fight him.

[Spray_resistant]

I still don't understand the difference.

If i'm a prospect and I think Manny could beat me, and i'm Mayweather and I think Manny could beat me, how is it different? (hypothetically speaking)

Both think Manny could beat them so they decide they don't dont to fight him.

Its not different: someone wants to fight, you say no and cite the reason being that he is just too good for you, you avoided the fight, in other words you ducked that fighter.

[SUPREME.]

Alright that sounds better spray.

I was referring to what blackirish said.

He kind of contradicted himself.

[Steak]

I still don't understand the difference.

If i'm a prospect and I think Manny could beat me, and i'm Mayweather and I think Manny could beat me, how is it different? (hypothetically speaking)

Both think Manny could beat them so they decide they don't dont to fight him.

As a 'world champ', you are claiming to be the best in the world.
If you claim as such and dont fight top opponents, then you are ducking them.

In reality, anyone who doesnt want a fight from a certain fighter is ducking a fight technically. We can spin it as much as we want, but thats the truth. Its just far more acceptable if you are an unknown or a prospect that simply hasnt stepped up the competition. If youre a top fighter and claim to be as such, then if you dont want a fight with another top guy in your weight class, its unacceptable ducking.

All Im saying is if you say youre 'too green', then dont BS about it, say it flat out. and dont pretend to be a world champ either, because youre certainly not the best in the world if you refuse to fight a better opponent.

[Feint]

This is just my personal take, but “ducking” has a negative connotation to it (obviously) and thus should only be used it you are a champion that doesn’t accept a fight. In that case, you are claiming to be the best and should take on the best available fighter.

On the other hand, if you are still developing as a boxer and don’t take a fight with a much more seasoned pro, to me that is just being honest and realistic. I’m not saying you shouldn’t ever challenge yourself as that is how you get better, but it doesn’t take a man to get your head beat in and being overwhelmed isn’t going to make you better. It just makes you foolhardy.