Sergio Martinez fought a 60-70% Kelly Pavlik with Alcohol abuse problems

[VitoCarlos]

this line is so full of fail..you said most boxers can drink and it doesnt hurt their career..then you use arreola are an example???seriously??dude is a the poster boy for lack of disapline..you see the clean fighters have longer careers..but its not your opponents fault you arnt focused..its not like they didnt fight the real you..cause obviously that is the real you

Chris Arreola never had discipline.
Kelly Pavlik on the other hand did.

So it didn't ruin Chris Arreola for drinking, he has never been in top shape since he looks like a bloated puffer fish.

Kelly Pavlik is in shape.

[HandSpeed303]

Chris Arreola never had discipline.
Kelly Pavlik on the other hand did.

So it didn't ruin Chris Arreola for drinking, he has never been in top shape since he looks like a bloated puffer fish.

Kelly Pavlik is in shape.

Sorry but, if you need to be placed into rehab for your drinking, I don't think you should call that discipline...

I ask you again, do you think this just started? Or is it beyond the realm of logical thinking that Pavlik could have been a drunk for awhile now?

[studentofthegam]

Oh my Goooooooooooooooood. Stop making excuses. Kelly was never that good. Ok he beat Jermaine but we see where how JT ended up. Pavlik will never be able to beat fast, accurate fighters. He can only beat people who stand right there. Thats at 70% or 120%. Yall try to give mediocure fighters all the excuses in the world.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Pavlik was probably a better boxer when he was wasted. Made him loosed up a bit more. Bent his knees and got his slickness together

[paulf]

Pavlik was one dimensional and ducked Paul Williams like crazy.

The Kelly that beat Jermaine would have got owned by Martinez as well.

Dude was a one-hit-wonder.

[goblin213]

The point is he has balls to fight anyone. Unlike Pac and May. But yeah I still think Floyd will beat him and he might beat Pac but it won't be that easy as other people think. The question is will the two jacka$$es be willing to fight him?

[Canelo Phresh]

Pavlik was one dimensional and ducked Paul Williams like crazy.

The Kelly that beat Jermaine would have got owned by Martinez as well.

Dude was a one-hit-wonder.

amen brother end/

[nomadman]

Pavlik was one dimensional and ducked Paul Williams like crazy.

The Kelly that beat Jermaine would have got owned by Martinez as well.

Dude was a one-hit-wonder.

Come on man, that's harsh. Pavlik was, and still is, a very good fighter.

[TheSlickster]

Excuses, Excuses.

Styles make fights and Martinez would still give problems to Pavlik. Pavlik has problems with guys who can move around a lot. The fight was competitive going into the 9th round and Martinez did get knocked down BUT Martinez showed why he deserved full credit.

Actually in my opinion, Pavlik might've lost worst if it was pre-Hopkins, because he was more tense at the time and after the Behop fight ,he learned from his mistakes. Alcoholism is just an excuse, there have been plenty fighters who had alcohol or drug problems but still kicked his A opponent no problem.

Also, lastly...take into account Pavlik's Team requested Martinez and backed out from fighting Williams.

[mathed]

I do not see why everyone is all over his nuts.

Kelly Pavlik would of easily tore an ******* on Martinez if he did not have these problems at all.


Sergio Martinez is closely overrated near Pacquiao I might add.

LOL, sure...a guy with a 5 inch height advantage, a huge reach advantage, and an 11 pound weight advantage on fight night. Kelly got beat, it's his fault he was boozing up during training, not Sergio's. Mayweather is overated IMO, the dude uses vacations and retirements to avoid fighting people.

Sergio has never turned away from a challenge unlike Mayweather who just says the person is a nobody and refuses to fight them.