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  • #61
    Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
    Pay attention, holmes.

    A.) I fully realize that there are many non hispanics who were fans of Chavez and the way he fought. I never said that, find me where I did and you get all my points.

    B.) What I said was "anyone who watched the fight who thought Chavez was winning had to be Mexican". Meaning they were viewing the fight with National pride on the line, and th ehonor of Mexico. Any human being with 2 eyes could see that Taylor was teeing off on Chavez like Tiger Woods.

    C.) Give me a round in which you gave to Chavez, just one. I dare you to find one that you could even make an argument that Chavez won it. Don't worry, I'll wait a while.

    Listen ******!

    If you can't even give Chavez one round in 12 rounds then you are by far the biggest nutthugger on this site.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
      2 seconds, not even enough time for Chavez to walk to the middle of the ring, let alone make it to Taylor's corner, let alone hit him again.

      And Taylor was ****ing Chavez up for 35 minutes and 58 seconds of that fight. Anybody who gave Chavez a single round in that fight was biased. Taylor's flurries were fast, effective, and powerful, as well as eye catching. Chavez landed some brutal shots as well but 1 or 2 big punches per round is not enough to win any of the rounds, especially when you're getting pounded by flurries every single round.
      There's no way that Taylor was shutting out Chavez in that fight. Winning at the time of the stoppage? Of course. Chavez was landing brutal shots the entire fight, although he was being outworked, Chavez wasnt getting shut out, but I think that Taylor was surely on his way to a decision, but he needed to answer the ref, and he didnt do that.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by ferocity View Post
        Listen ******!

        If you can't even give Chavez one round in 12 rounds then you are by far the biggest nutthugger on this site.
        Oh now I'm a ****** because I'm a white guy who had a black guy up on points by a large lead against a Mexican?

        There's no way that Taylor was shutting out Chavez in that fight. Winning at the time of the stoppage? Of course. Chavez was landing brutal shots the entire fight, although he was being outworked, Chavez wasnt getting shut out, but I think that Taylor was surely on his way to a decision, but he needed to answer the ref, and he didnt do that.
        I'm not one to argue matters of opinion, so let's stick with the facts. Fact: Meldrick Taylor was up on the count of 8 and nodded to Richard Steele twice before Steele stopped the fight.

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        • #64
          Chavez was landing nice counters throughout the fight. They were subtle body shots that didn't look like they were affecting Taylor I only gave Chavez 3 rounds up to the stoppage.

          I think the biggest thing about this bout was the mental aspect. Taylor worked his ass off...outside, inside - just flat outworked Chavez. And to get a brutal stoppage like that probably burned his desire a little bit.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
            Fact: Meldrick Taylor was up on the count of 8 and nodded to Richard Steele twice before Steele stopped the fight.
            I saw Taylor look at Steele, and maybe he did nod, what happens immediately after that is why I don't think there should be such controversy:



            Steele counts to 8 and looks at Taylor:

            Steele:You OK?

            Taylor:.....(taylor does not answer, rather he looks at his corner)

            Steele: (again asks)You OK?

            Taylor:.....STILL NO ANSWER

            It doesnt matter that there were only a couple seconds in the fight, Taylor needed to answer the referee, and he didnt do it.

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            • #66
              It was a bad stoppage. plain and simple. How many seconds were left? 8 if I remember correctly.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by GodzHand View Post
                I saw Taylor look at Steele, and maybe he did nod, what happens immediately after that is why I don't think there should be such controversy:



                Steele counts to 8 and looks at Taylor:

                Steele:You OK?

                Taylor:.....(taylor does not answer, rather he looks at his corner)

                Steele: (again asks)You OK?

                Taylor:.....STILL NO ANSWER

                It doesnt matter that there were only a couple seconds in the fight, Taylor needed to answer the referee, and he didnt do it.
                I agree that Taylor gave no verbal indication of his well being, and did glanc eover at his corner. That was because Lou Duva was going nuts on the ring apron. Anyway, I can't watch that video because I've seen it enough and it's painful to watch as a Taylor fan. I loved the dude growing up, but I hold no ill will towards Chavez either. I'm actually a pretty solid Chavez fan as well.

                I think they made each other in that fight, unfortunately for Meldrick, it was the last time he'd ever be great.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
                  I agree that Taylor gave no verbal indication of his well being, and did glanc eover at his corner. That was because Lou Duva was going nuts on the ring apron. Anyway, I can't watch that video because I've seen it enough and it's painful to watch as a Taylor fan. I loved the dude growing up, but I hold no ill will towards Chavez either. I'm actually a pretty solid Chavez fan as well.

                  I think they made each other in that fight, unfortunately for Meldrick, it was the last time he'd ever be great.
                  I think that no matter which side you're on regarding the controversy, all can agree both these guys showed the hearts of warriors, and it was an excellent fight.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
                    Pay attention, holmes.

                    A.) I fully realize that there are many non hispanics who were fans of Chavez and the way he fought. I never said that, find me where I did and you get all my points.

                    B.) What I said was "anyone who watched the fight who thought Chavez was winning had to be Mexican". Meaning they were viewing the fight with National pride on the line, and th ehonor of Mexico. Any human being with 2 eyes could see that Taylor was teeing off on Chavez like Tiger Woods.

                    C.) Give me a round in which you gave to Chavez, just one. I dare you to find one that you could even make an argument that Chavez won it. Don't worry, I'll wait a while.
                    Dude, if you didnt give at least a round to Chavez you know nothing about boxing.

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                    • #70
                      there were two seconds left but a fight is 36 minutes long...so...

                      seriously both guys fought great....i think taylor shouldve answered the ref when he asked him...i think he was seriously considering to quit if there was still a lot of time in the round....it was a bad stoppage but it is somewhat fundamneted because of taylor's failure to answer to the ref...

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