Comments Thread For: Past-Prime Evander Holyfield is Still Right To Fight

[Rockin']

Good post man. I can't disagree with a thing you said..... but.....

Some fighters can't stop bro, like you said, it's what they do.

One local guy in my country, his family petitioned the court to prevent him from boxing, claiming that he was already punch-drunk. He fought on for another 7 years.

Boxing needs rules like in rugby, where you take psych/cognition tests when you turn pro, and they form your baseline. You get tested regularly, and as soon as your results drop below the baseline, your license is revoked.

That law would perform the exact same job as a referee, to protect the fighter. Some guys need to be told when they've had enough.

I made a joke about Margarito after the Pac fight.

Someone posted that the ref shoulda stopped the fight, I replied..... "nope, Marg deserved 15 rounds with Pac, because a 12-month ban wasn't long enough".

The fact of the matter is, if that really was a 15-round fight..... Margarito would have fought every single one of those rounds, there is no doubt in my mind.

I am not a Margarito fan.

He is one tough son-of-a-b1tch.

Thankyou for the compliment. And you are right, it's very hard for a fighter to believe it's over. I had a really, really hard time walking away from it. It actually took me like 6 or 7 years to be done with it. I intially walked away for certain reasons but could never get it out of my blood. Through those 6 or 7 years I was still always at a gym sparring and stuff. I'd take a fight here or there just because I missed it so much, regardless of what physical condition I might have been in. For a true fighter you will never be as alive as you are between the bells. It's hard to explain, it may be the danger or maybe the pure adrenaline flowing through the veins. Regardless, for a fighter to find anything that comes close to that feeling is nearly impossible if not simply impossible in the civilian world. Could Holyfield suffer from pugilistica demensia later in his life if he quits now? It is possible. Could he suffer from it if he continues on fighting? Again it is possible. But Holyfield is his own man and knows the risks involved. I just don't think that a commision should ban him assuming that he is thoroughly examined by a doctor and the doctors opinion is that he is in good health. My opinion, I think that he should hang his gloves in a golden showcase with all of his belts, olympic medals and amatuer tropheys. He should recline back in his chair, put his feet up and look at all that he has accomplished in the toughest sport in the world. If there ever was a true warrior walking this planet it would be Holyfield. That's just my opinion, but it is his life..............Rockin'

[Imatroll]

GOD DAMN You HOLYFIELD! You landed more headbutts than punches on williams. PLEASE RETIRE YOU SOB!!!

[ghost deini]

you can't compare Holyfield to Hopkins

Holyfield has been through the wars i can't recall Bernard ever being to close to being beaten up

plus he slurs when he talks and with Bernard you can clearly see he has all his faculties intact which is more than i can say for Evander

he needed to years ago

and please save that but he beat Valuev and was robbed talk

even if that's true doesn't mean much as Valuev was the definition of a paper champ

[StrangerInTown]

I hope the best of his career, dont want to see him end up with parksinson's for fighting for too long

Holy is the prime example of an unregulated 'sport' that promotes indifference to human life with the same arguments the NRA utilizes.
But the right to throw hands in a prize ring is not in the Constitution.

Foreman always had the big punch and huge frame, Mamby had the style and grace.
Evander quit on Saturday night against a man he would have beaten even 5 seasons ago.
The dream is over.
His health cannot afford such desire and there is a time of reckoning for all living things, especially those who take punches to the head for a living.
There is free will and then there is insanity.

[Rockin']

Holy is the prime example of an unregulated 'sport' that promotes indifference to human life with the same arguments the NRA utilizes.
But the right to throw hands in a prize ring is not in the Constitution.

Foreman always had the big punch and huge frame, Mamby had the style and grace.
Evander quit on Saturday night against a man he would have beaten even 5 seasons ago.
The dream is over.
His health cannot afford such desire and there is a time of reckoning for all living things, especially those who take punches to the head for a living.
There is free will and then there is insanity.

If Evil Kenivel was allowed to jump his motorcycles over every fricken thing in the world while risking death and breaking just about every bone in his body in the process then why should Evander be denied a license to fight. If he is cleared by the doctors then he has every right to do it.

I was a fighter, we know the risks every time we jump into the ring whether its just to spar or to compete in a sanctioned bout. If boxing gives Holyfield the life that he wants then he should not be denied. He knows of the risk that he takes. Joe Louis had the right to step in against Marciano back in the day, yeah it turned out bad for the Brown Bomber but it was his right to try..............Rockin'

[jimmy1569]

I'm glad this article was written instead of the usual bull**** that states he should be saved from himself & let's cut it out with Big George having a bigger punch & therefore could sustain less of a beating.

The beating he took to Evander was 10 times more than anything Holyfield has sustained since he got his license restored. So what...he didn't continue against this journeyman... just goes to show you he has his faculties about him & is NOT in it to get unnecessary punishment. The cut was caused by a headbutt & later Williams started targeting it.

He was also hitting late a couple of times after the ref warned him. He tried to show Holy he wasn't going to be intimidated & was using rough house tactics. A prime HOLY would've sent this guy back to the Ba***** in a casket...calling Holyfield a coward for quitting. He wasn't doing nearly as bad as people are saying..he got rocked in the last couple of minutes but was competitive before he sustained the cut.. even then ..just shows you how Holy knows how to weather the storm & defend himself.

His chin is still there & rock solid as ever. & he still moves & bounces on his toes better than anyone in the division.. He does alot of the stuff that fighters who are completely gone don't do. He can still rock you if he lands right & is more dangerous than Holmes was at said stage/age & just as competitive as George. Take away George's punch on Moorer & he wasn't
better than Holyfield.

Evander deserves the right to fight these powerful titlists & until he gets in the ring with them...you No NOTHING about what the outcome will be...for all we know he could school Haye & have him running all night long scared to throw a punch... not farfetched at all. Put him in with Wlad & you'll see an even more overly cautious fighter than usual because he knows what Holyfield is capable of.

Alot of it is boxing styles.. This TANK DUDE didn't have the right style for Holyfield & that's why he couldn't figure him out. For all we know Wlad could be made to order for hOLYFIELD & you never know... Vitali will be 40 by the time Evander would fight him.

They could fight HAYE & there'll be only 2 Klitschko's to get all the belts from.. Certainly improbable but NOT impossible as some might have you believe. Certainly Evander believes it or wants to convince himself of it... but he certainly WANTS to go for it & I say WE let him by halting all these forecasts of doom which is even less likely than Evander accomplishing his goal. Only THE KLISTCHKO'S & HAYE are in Evanders physical shape so why should Evander be cut out of the loop.

[LeadUppercut]

Thankyou for the compliment. And you are right, it's very hard for a fighter to believe it's over. I had a really, really hard time walking away from it. It actually took me like 6 or 7 years to be done with it. I intially walked away for certain reasons but could never get it out of my blood. Through those 6 or 7 years I was still always at a gym sparring and stuff. I'd take a fight here or there just because I missed it so much, regardless of what physical condition I might have been in. For a true fighter you will never be as alive as you are between the bells. It's hard to explain, it may be the danger or maybe the pure adrenaline flowing through the veins. Regardless, for a fighter to find anything that comes close to that feeling is nearly impossible if not simply impossible in the civilian world. Could Holyfield suffer from pugilistica demensia later in his life if he quits now? It is possible. Could he suffer from it if he continues on fighting? Again it is possible. But Holyfield is his own man and knows the risks involved. I just don't think that a commision should ban him assuming that he is thoroughly examined by a doctor and the doctors opinion is that he is in good health. My opinion, I think that he should hang his gloves in a golden showcase with all of his belts, olympic medals and amatuer tropheys. He should recline back in his chair, put his feet up and look at all that he has accomplished in the toughest sport in the world. If there ever was a true warrior walking this planet it would be Holyfield. That's just my opinion, but it is his life..............Rockin'

Yep agreed man, I had the exact same problem until my lil girl was born. And my wife has never liked boxing, although she will watch the odd fight with me now. I became one of the "old guys" that used to hang around the gym when I first started training as a kid. And I agree with regards to Evander, he's a legend, New Oxford should have a pic of him under the word "warrior".

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Like I said i. The B Hop thread: This ***** need to quit. He embarassing us all.